The sound of ancient languages - Page 2

Soldier of Macedon · 02-13-2009, 07:19 PM

Are we able to obtain a list of words from Homeric Greek? I have seen all sorts of theories thrown out there, even proposing connections to the Albanian (Shqiptar) language.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-13-2009, 07:23 PM

Don't know the credibility of this.

Delodephius · 02-13-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan

I have read, that there is a bigger difference in the Greek of Homer to the Greek of Xenophon, than the Greek of Xenophon to todays Greek.

Homer- 900-800 bc
Xenophon-500-400bc

The Illiad and Odyssey were written in Ancient Greek

The Iliad and Odyssey were reformed during the time of the Athenian dictator Hipparchus (d. 514 BC). They were modernized and placed into a canonical form that we know today. It was mostly concerning the recitation of the texts.

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Originally Posted by Spartan

What is a fake language?
How can that be?
Its either a language or not, no?

The idea of a fake language is propagated by nationalists who think that language is made for the people and not by the people. Language is not an intellectual property, or property of any kind. It cannot be faked since it is always unique no matter what you do with it.

Delodephius · 02-13-2009, 07:25 PM

SoM, I'll say this openly: Shqip conection? Pile of flaming dog shit. Someone should try with Japanese. That list was made by someone with almost no knowledge of language systems.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-13-2009, 07:26 PM

Lol, thanks Slovak.

Delodephius · 02-13-2009, 07:30 PM

You know who really wrote the Iliad and Odyssey? It was not Homer, but some guy with the same name.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-13-2009, 07:43 PM

Funny about that name 'Homer', is it related to the name used often by Islamic peoples, 'Omar'? Is it an Anatolian name?

Delodephius · 02-13-2009, 07:53 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_(name)

Spartan · 02-13-2009, 08:21 PM

From wiki-

Homeric Greek is the form of Ancient Greek that was used by Homer in the Iliad and Odyssey. It is an archaic version of Ionic Greek, with admixtures from certain other dialects, such as Aeolic Greek. It later served as the basis of Epic Greek, the language of epic poetry, typically in dactylic hexameter, of poets such as Hesiod. Unlike later forms of the language, Homeric Greek did not have available in most circumstances a true definite article. [1] Compositions in Epic Greek may date from as late as the 3rd century AD, though its decline was inevitable with the rise of Koine Greek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeric_Greek

If you scroll down the page it has a passage from the illiad translated to english by different people.
Its interesting

Soldier of Macedon · 02-13-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slovak/Anomaly/Tomas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_(name)

Nothing there bro.

02-13-2009, 07:19 PM	#11
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Are we able to obtain a list of words from Homeric Greek? I have seen all sorts of theories thrown out there, even proposing connections to the Albanian (Shqiptar) language. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-13-2009, 07:23 PM	#12
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Don't know the credibility of this. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-13-2009, 07:25 PM	#14
Delodephius Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Petrovecz Baciensis, Res Publica Iazygia Posts: 736	SoM, I'll say this openly: Shqip conection? Pile of flaming dog shit. Someone should try with Japanese. That list was made by someone with almost no knowledge of language systems. __________________ अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्। उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥ This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count. But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.

02-13-2009, 07:26 PM	#15
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Lol, thanks Slovak. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-13-2009, 07:30 PM	#16
Delodephius Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Petrovecz Baciensis, Res Publica Iazygia Posts: 736	You know who really wrote the Iliad and Odyssey? It was not Homer, but some guy with the same name. __________________ अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्। उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥ This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count. But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.

02-13-2009, 07:43 PM	#17
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Funny about that name 'Homer', is it related to the name used often by Islamic peoples, 'Omar'? Is it an Anatolian name? __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-13-2009, 07:53 PM	#18
Delodephius Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Petrovecz Baciensis, Res Publica Iazygia Posts: 736	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_(name) __________________ अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्। उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥ This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count. But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family. Last edited by Delodephius; 02-14-2009 at 07:05 AM.

02-13-2009, 08:21 PM	#19
Spartan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,037	From wiki- Homeric Greek is the form of Ancient Greek that was used by Homer in the Iliad and Odyssey. It is an archaic version of Ionic Greek, with admixtures from certain other dialects, such as Aeolic Greek. It later served as the basis of Epic Greek, the language of epic poetry, typically in dactylic hexameter, of poets such as Hesiod. Unlike later forms of the language, Homeric Greek did not have available in most circumstances a true definite article. [1] Compositions in Epic Greek may date from as late as the 3rd century AD, though its decline was inevitable with the rise of Koine Greek. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeric_Greek If you scroll down the page it has a passage from the illiad translated to english by different people. Its interesting Last edited by Spartan; 02-13-2009 at 08:24 PM.

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