Soros, NGOs and Western/foreign meddling in Macedonia

[Volk]

Originally Posted by Pelister

Soros wants to break down the unity that hangs by a thread in Macedonia.

That's complete bullshit, what thread? the one made up in your head??

If it was a hanging thread like you say it would have snapped long ago.

Nema sila sto ke go smeni imeto

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Volk

That's complete bullshit, what thread? the one made up in your head??

If it was a hanging thread like you say it would have snapped long ago.

Nema sila sto ke go smeni imeto

Read the first post at the very beginning of the thread for a change imbecile, look at the content and the letter head, and the address.

I don't find anything 'tolerant, open and democratic' about the following:

Macedonia, Former Yugoslav Republic of...among other things

Why not call us just 'Macedonia'?

The Soros Foundation is a destabilising force in the region, and particularly dangerous because it operates at the grass roots level. Our country is on the brink of political extinction (it really couldn't get any worse), and yet we have this kind of money (millions) being pumped into bringing attitudes at the grass roots around to the 'vision' that the E.U and Greece has planned for us.

[George S.]

whatever he want's to do it can't be good for macedonia.Don't be fooled by the $$ he spends as they are tied to a string.I'm sure there are conditions attached.

[Volk]

Originally Posted by Pelister

Read the first post at the very beginning of the thread for a change imbecile, look at the content and the letter head, and the address.

I don't find anything 'tolerant, open and democratic' about the following:



Why not call us just 'Macedonia'?

The Soros Foundation is a destabilising force in the region, and particularly dangerous because it operates at the grass roots level. Our country is on the brink of political extinction (it really couldn't get any worse), and yet we have this kind of money (millions) being pumped into bringing attitudes at the grass roots around to the 'vision' that the E.U and Greece has planned for us.

How does this prove we are hanging on a thread??? because the Soros foundation uses that idiotic name????

Stop spreading hysteria if you cannot back it up

[julie]

Volk, you have got to be joking! Obviously you support the financial backers of your idiotic organisation and Soros must be one of them in the Masonic secret sect.

[TrueMacedonian]

Originally Posted by Volk

How does this prove we are hanging on a thread??? because the Soros foundation uses that idiotic name????

Stop spreading hysteria if you cannot back it up

Volk this is from Soros website;

The foundation is also engaged in multicountry research and education initiatives, such as an assessment of human rights in Croatia and Macedonia relative to EU norms, and a project to create four new history textbooks that were developed by 60 historians from 11 countries and which use an inclusive, multiethnic approach to pedagogy.

Do you notice something strange about all this? Especially considering from Soros' website itself - http://www.soros.org/about/locations/macedonia Does not mention Macedonians once, refers to the country he has its organization in as "the former yugoslav republic of Macedonia", and apparently is geared more towards Romas and other minority groups and not Macedonia and the Macedonians. I am all for human rights. But who the hell is Soros to want Macedonia to get HR assessments relative to EU norms when EU countries like Bulgaria, grcija, Cyprus, France, etc. recognize no minorities and have the worst HR violations in Europe? Who is Soros to push for 4 new textbooks in Macedonia using non-Macedonians?


If you want more evidence then click on the website and read more anti-Macedonian articles. Here's one in particular:

“Action for Europe” in Bitola

EU must speak with one voice

Foundation Open Society Institute Macedonia (FOSIM) and the Macedonian Centre for European Training (MCET) held the fourth debate "EU as a global player" on October 15, in Bitola. The debate was opened by Fani Karanfilova-Panovska from FOSIM and Vladimir Taleski, mayor of Bitola.

During the first part of the debate, dedicated to the new External Action Service as a new institutional instrument of the EU, speeches were delivered by the ambassadors of the biggest EU member states. Ulrike Maria Knotz, the Ambassador of Germany noted that the EU through its missions in Bosnia and Kosovo is imposing itself as a global player, but cannot speak with one voice yet. She hopes that the External Action Service, which should have about 7000 employees will change the foreign policy of the EU, and that through the Service the EU would be able to decide unanimously. French ambassador Jean-Clod Schlumberger shares the same opinion, hoping that the External Action Service will be established by the end of the year and that the different opinions and views on various issues would be dealt with.

Carlos Moreiro Gonzales, a university professor from Madrid said that the creation of the External Action Service would help avoid situations similar to that in the United Nations, when all 27 EU member states spoke on different frequencies. Jorge Nuñez Ferrer, associate expert of the Centre for European Policy Studies, pointed out that the EU is currently economically weakened, and also weakened due to the enlargement. Ferrer also indicated that the EU is economically the most powerful international organization, and as such it must be politically stronger.

During the second part of the debate, the importance of the Western Balkans for the EU was addressed, as well as the potential contribution of Macedonia to the EU as a global player. Emil Kirjas, the general secretary of Liberal International, referred to the Ohrid Agreement as a product that can help resolve many open issues. Macedonia demonstrated through the Ohrid Agreement, that a post-conflict society can continue to function based on the benefits of equitable representation, multilingualism and the like. Thus, Macedonia could become a global player through the EU” stressed Kirjas. British Ambassador Christopher Yvon, said that Macedonia without the EU is an uncompleted project, emphasizing that he hopes for Macedonia to become part of an organization with the same laws, customs and a free market of 500 million inhabitants.

The next and final debate of the autumn cycle "Action for Europe" will be held on October 29, in Skopje.


You wanna get a really good laugh after reading that article,,,,read about the meeting in Skopje:

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"Action for Europe" in Skopje

Foundation Open Society Institute - Macedonia (FOSIM) and the Macedonian Centre for European Training (MCET) are organizing a thematic debate “Human rights and equality in the European Union after the Treaty of Lisbon” on October 29, 2010 starting at 12.00h at the Holiday Inn Hotel (Millennium Hall 1) in Skopje. The debate is being organized as part of the autumn cycle of the “Action for Europe” project.

The general framework for the protection of human rights in the EU will be discussed during the debate, the reasons for the adoption of the Charter of fundamental rights and freedoms of the EU, the new role of the European Court of Justice in relation to the role of the European Court of Human Rights, whether the Treaty of Lisbon is improving the system for protection of human rights in the Union, etc. Particular attention will be given to the Macedonian system for protection of human rights from an aspect of the relation to the European systems.

Keynote speeches at the debate will be delivered by Simone Filippini, Ambassador of the Netherlands, José-Manuel Paz y Agüeras, Ambassador of Spain, Liljana Popovska and Vesna Bendevska, members of Parliament, Margarita Caca Nikolovska, a former judge in the European Court of Human Rights, Mirjana Najcevska, a professor at the Institute of Sociological and Political-Legal Research and Zarko Trajanoski, columnist - human rights activist. Although the debate will formally consist of two parts, all keynote speakers will be present all the time and will be able to participate and respond to questions asked by other participants and guests.


EU and HR don't mix and are so contradictory that it's laughable.

[Volk]

I don't doubt the evil intentions of the Soros foundation in regards to Macedonia.

What a DO doubt is that unity in Macedonia hangs by a thread.
Regardless of how many Soros financed so called NGOs are working against us.

[Prolet]

I remember watching a few interviews in the Greek Media and they are saying how George Soros is actually financing Macedonia and how he is working to destroy Greece. Its more then clear that George Soros is working against every countries interests, his so called NGO's are constantly interfering with democratically elected governments and countries like Macedonia and Croatia he seems to love telling people what to do.

[TrueMacedonian]

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n235500

Kanal 5: 51.5% of Albanians in Macedonia want Greater Albania

Skopje. 51.5% of the Albanians in Macedonia want the establishment of Greater Albania, states a poll conducted by Gallup in partnership with the European Fund for the Balkans, Macedonian Kanal 5 TV reports.
According to the poll, some 62% of the citizens of Albania back the establishment of Greater Albania, so do 81% of the citizens of Kosovo.
95% of the people inquired think that Greater Albania should cover the territory of current Albania, Kosovo and part of Macedonia.

[TrueMacedonian]

Why is this being reported now amidst the "EU and NATO accession talks"? Why was this poll conducted now? I want to bring everyones attention to this sentence from the above article:

states a poll conducted by Gallup in partnership with the European Fund for the Balkans

Who are the European Fund for the Balkans? Well here is who they are affiliated with - http://www.balkanfund.org/the-news/e...ellowship-prog

European Fund for the Balkans in cooperation with the Open Society Institute Think Tank Fund

http://www.soros.org/


And here is something from there website about the gallup polls they conduct:

4. DEVELOPING POLICIES FOR THE BALKANS

Initiatives for building the public image of the Fund and its contribution in policy making for the EU integration of the Balkans are developed through joined initiatives and partnerships as well.

Initiatives:

Gallup Balkan Monitor

In partnership with Gallup Europe, the European Fund for the Balkans developed the “Gallup Balkan Monitor”, which aims at providing all-encompassing data on people’s perceptions in the Western Balkans region, creating thereby a one-stop shop that delivers strategic insights based on evidence-based social research in the region.

This unique survey is expected to help measure and assess the impact of EU and national policies in the Balkans and to assist leaders in shaping their agendas by permitting timely access to their constituents’ voices and minds. It is also the first-ever in-depth survey of the whole Western Balkans region.

The results of the first research were presented in Brussels in November 2008. In order to promote and widely acknowledge the results of the Gallup Balkan Monitor a series of presentations and public discussions are organised in the capitals of Western Balkan countries.
(http://www.balkan-monitor.eu/)


George Soros' organizations, fear mongering, and EU and NATO talks so close in time. Coincidence? Conspiracy? You be the judge.