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Old 11-28-2012, 08:07 PM   #6601
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At least they are consistent in their contradictions.

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UMD, a charitable organization, also has a policy that we do not
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I distinctly remember a moment where Meto said "the Macedonian Government wants it, we have to support them".

But while we are talking about contradictions, I note a recent press release from them denouncing some of these extreme Albanian aggressions. I also recall them celebrating the peaceful coexistence that has stemmed from the Framework Agreement once upon a time. None of it making sense to more rational people in my opinion.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:12 PM   #6602
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It seems that having Vinozhito around in 2007 and 2008 was ok for the UMD. I am positive there are more press releases hanging around from 2009 and 2010 about Vinozhito in the UMD archives.

Eugenia Natsoulidou's past remarks are all over the web. It is evident she is not only against Vinozhito but also puts them in a class of racists with the "Golden Dawn".

Quite un-remarkable are Meto's claims that these were "oversights". 4 changes are not oversights. They are intentional ways to avoid using the name "Vinozhito" so as not to upset Eugenia.
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Quite un-remarkable are Meto's claims that these were "oversights". 4 changes are not oversights. They are intentional ways to avoid using the name "Vinozhito" so as not to upset Eugenia.
I think you totally underestimate the pathetic incompetence of umd, their Board, Advisory Council, "worldwide" representatives and their "charitable" nature...
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:39 AM   #6604
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How many screw ups/contradictions can one organisation have? So many hidden agendas. George Vlahov's last e-mail said it perfectly - incompetence!
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:54 AM   #6605
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The latest example of UMD incompetence has been moved to its usual place.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:04 PM   #6606
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Where's Chiche to comment on this? What sort of language does he think would be appropriate for this debacle? Does he consider UMD usefull Macedonians?
Here I am SWEET HEART, The UMD, Were very irresponsible with the omission of very pertinent FACTS! If it was ignorance we should forgive them, but I must say, intelligent people should never be so Wrong. You ask are they useful, well if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul. Can we teach these people what is right and wrong?? It appears yes as they did correct the Press Release, can we change what is in their Hearts, "Only time will tell".
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that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul.
What's with the 'name calling' Chiche - that contradicts your philosophy.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:27 PM   #6608
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You must copy and paste the full sentence Lad! I did not call them Names.
"if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul"

This makes you as bad as them, the UMD, Lad! missing important facts.

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Here I am SWEET HEART, The UMD, Were very irresponsible with the omission of very pertinent FACTS! If it was ignorance we should forgive them, but I must say, intelligent people should never be so Wrong. You ask are they useful, well if they work to Deny the existence of our Name, People, our language and our Lands, NO they are not, that would make them Traitors to the Macedonian Soul. Can we teach these people what is right and wrong?? It appears yes as they did correct the Press Release, can we change what is in their Hearts, "Only time will tell".
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Thanks for your response! I used this as an example because the parties involved are well educated, prominent figures claiming to be acting in the best interests of all Macedonians. On many occasions their inappropriate conduct has been discussed with them and questioned in detail, great efforts were went to in order to get a clear and distinct message across to them in a civilised and orderly manner - on many occasions. My question to you now is "how many times do we speak to them nicely without profanities or name calling"? At what point do you dispense with the niceties and start calling "a spade", "a spade", how much damage do you allow them to do before you cut the cancer away from the rest of the body?
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:31 PM   #6610
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Chich you need to get off the fence, you've got so many splinters stuck in your arse that they could plant you in the Belanglo State Forest...
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