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Old 02-27-2011, 11:29 PM   #5621
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Macedonia is a very generous country, it likes to give blank cheques to its neighbors! The first blank cheque was to Greece in 1995, the package included Macedonia accepting "FYROM" for international use, abandoning the minority issue (changing the constit.), changing the flag, and giving up use of the Macedonian sun in any shape or form.

The second blank cheque was given to the Albanians in 2001, the package included making Albanian an official language, changing municipal borders in their benefit, and letting terrorists walk free and giving them key positions in the government.

Now it's time for a third blank cheque! We will change our name in the constit., passports, identity, and anything else that Greece wants us to do... All Greece needs to do is ... tell us where to sign!

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Old 02-27-2011, 11:41 PM   #5622
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Volk, hope you enjoyed your brief stay in reality 3 posts ago, but I see that you have quickly reverted back to the same ICJ garbage where in fact it was YOU who was running in circles. Put your pride and ego to the side and try and capture that moment of clarity you seemed to have had a short while ago.
My interpretation to the reasons why Macedonia is at ICJ is not set, I wanted peoples opinions as to why it is there.

The official reason was to enter EU and NATO under FYROM, to enforce the 'accord'. However since the court has no power to do this there must be another reason. I queried peoples thoughts as to why it would do it, some people answered, you did not, neither did your pal Vangelovski.

I offered some scenarios that where unlikely and now impossible. My question still remains legitimate and your answers absent.

Frankly considering the the new piece of information, I am not even interested in it anymore.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:45 PM   #5623
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There was nothing to be interested in, in the first place. You now see that.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:54 PM   #5624
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My interpretation to the reasons why Macedonia is at ICJ is not set, I wanted peoples opinions as to why it is there.

The official reason was to enter EU and NATO under FYROM, to enforce the 'accord'. However since the court has no power to do this there must be another reason. I queried peoples thoughts as to why it would do it, some people answered, you did not, neither did your pal Vangelovski.

I offered some scenarios that where unlikely and now impossible. My question still remains legitimate and your answers absent.

Frankly considering the the new piece of information, I am not even interested in it anymore.
Our answers are there - vassal interests from amatuer politicians. Milososki's letter is just one more confirmation, one that you will eventually ignore and come back to justify at some stage.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:01 AM   #5625
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I agree with Bill, unless someone steps forward and is absolutely clear on this issue, it's like choosing between the frying pan and the fire.
Here is a question i want anyone to answer.

If SDSM was to come out with a pre election promise, where they were to end negotiations (which would then mean the chances of EU entry in the near future would end)

Would SDSM win support?


My answer IMHO is no. Infact, they will not only not gain support, but they will loose the minority that they already have.

My point is not to defend politicians or take any blame away from them, its more of an attack on citizens who i believe is the main cause of this problem we face.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:13 AM   #5626
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its more of an attack on citizens who i believe is the main cause of this problem we face.
That will be that slave mentality that nobody likes hearing.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:33 AM   #5627
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UMD Urges End to Negotiations, Opposition’s Return to Parliament, and Diaspora Right to Vote

The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD), on behalf of its membership and entire global Macedonian Diaspora community, expressed today its concern over the ongoing and most recent Macedonian Government’s handling of the “name dispute” with Greece, and the political gamesmanship of Macedonia’s political parties with Macedonia’s democratic institutions. Furthermore, UMD expressed disappointment in the manipulation of the Diaspora’s right to vote by Macedonia’s political parties.

Read full press release at: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/549/1/
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:36 AM   #5628
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UMD Urges End to Negotiations, Opposition’s Return to Parliament, and Diaspora Right to Vote

The United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD), on behalf of its membership and entire global Macedonian Diaspora community, expressed today its concern over the ongoing and most recent Macedonian Government’s handling of the “name dispute” with Greece, and the political gamesmanship of Macedonia’s political parties with Macedonia’s democratic institutions. Furthermore, UMD expressed disappointment in the manipulation of the Diaspora’s right to vote by Macedonia’s political parties.

Read full press release at: http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/549/1/
I haven't read it yet, but you will NEVER speak on behalf of the "entire global Macedonian diaspora community" so please spare us your delusions of granduer.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:40 AM   #5629
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I just read it. Its more of the same misguided UMD BS, though from a State Deparment perspective this time.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:46 AM   #5630
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I knew this same old BS would resurface....it was only a matter of time, but I expected it from the usual suspects.
Just throwing it out there to foster some discussion Tom. I didn't realize that this was well trodden territory.
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