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Old 02-03-2011, 02:10 AM   #5511
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What's the progress on stopping the negotiations.What has umd done that stands out like the proverbials.Buggerall.I'm dissapointed in the extreme.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:38 AM   #5512
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A number of question for you Meto.

What steps has UMD taken to end the negotiations, or does UMD still push the line that the negotiations are necessary?

Does UMD realize that our admission to the United Nations by our chosen name has not been 'blocked' by anyone?

What has UMD been doing in terms of getting the Gruevski government to admit our name to the United Nations?
All good questions, UMD met with Macedonian President Ivanov last night urging the Macedonian government to end the negotiations. Few members of Parliament of both VMRO and SDSM were present.

UMD will be organizing a symposium at the United Nations in the coming months bringing international experts to discuss the illegality of Macedonia's admission to the UN.

The Gruevski Government has not responded at all to our concerns yet. We will keep pushing.

We hope that answers your questions for now. Things can't happen overnight.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:44 AM   #5513
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Here is the text about the meeting with President Ivanov. When the text was published last night, it included our views on the negotiations, and that the Diaspora does not support a name change. Oddly enough this morning it is no longer in the article:

http://www.voanews.com/macedonian/ne...115147899.html
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:33 AM   #5514
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The Gruevski Government has not responded at all to our concerns yet. We will keep pushing.
Who exactly, we'll ask that person(s)?

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Oddly enough this morning it is no longer in the article:
Oddly? Find out who funds VOA for that answer

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Things can't happen overnight.
6 years is not something we consider overnight
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:43 AM   #5515
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UMD, Some have suggested that Macedonia ends the negotiations and goes to the UN as we have a 2/3 majority who recognized our name. In a recent interview on Sitel, Dr Srdjan Kerim was asked what he thought about that idea and he said it would be the stupidest thing we can do since he doesnt believe that all those countries would vote in our favor.

How do you see a way out of this?
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:51 PM   #5516
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We have to disagree with Dr. Kerim about bringing it to the UN to get 2/3 majority, but agree with him that all countries may not vote in line with Macedonia. Many of the countries who recognize Macedonia recognize Macedonia bilaterally not multilaterally under Macedonia's name. There is a lot of work to be done prior to even bringing it up to the UN...that is why UMD will be organizing a diplomatic marathon in the coming months.

Here is info. on our meeting with President Ivanov: http://zurnal.mk/mk/cont.asp?k=21208...&id=3211162014
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:39 PM   #5517
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We have to disagree with Dr. Kerim about bringing it to the UN to get 2/3 majority, but agree with him that all countries may not vote in line with Macedonia. Many of the countries who recognize Macedonia recognize Macedonia bilaterally not multilaterally under Macedonia's name. There is a lot of work to be done prior to even bringing it up to the UN...that is why UMD will be organizing a diplomatic marathon in the coming months.

Here is info. on our meeting with President Ivanov: http://zurnal.mk/mk/cont.asp?k=21208...&id=3211162014
do we have a name of the person that was told to change the original voa report? who instructed them? macedonian diaspora to boycott voa?
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:42 PM   #5518
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We have to disagree with Dr. Kerim about bringing it to the UN to get 2/3 majority, but agree with him that all countries may not vote in line with Macedonia. Many of the countries who recognize Macedonia recognize Macedonia bilaterally not multilaterally under Macedonia's name. There is a lot of work to be done prior to even bringing it up to the UN...that is why UMD will be organizing a diplomatic marathon in the coming months.

Here is info. on our meeting with President Ivanov: http://zurnal.mk/mk/cont.asp?k=21208...&id=3211162014
Meto, I see that you are still in favour of the UN determining our name rather than Macedonians themselves. I just can't work out whether you are listening to some idiotic "legal" advice or your natural vassal instincts are kicking in...

Did you cover any of the deeper issues with Ivanov, such as the Interim Accord or the Framework Agreement?
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Meto, I see that you are still in favour of the UN determining our name rather than Macedonians themselves
we the people will have our say regardless what umd tells governments or politicians - our message remains the same, never going to change for athens or the usa
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:27 PM   #5520
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Meto,

Remember late last year you claimed that France, Germany and South Africa would recognise Macedonia if you raised $25,000 by 31 December? What ever happened with that?
Meto,

Any progress on this front? Did you raise the money? Have these states recognised Macedonia's state name yet or was the money used to pay your salary?
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