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Old 12-05-2010, 10:17 PM   #5211
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I find it disturbing that Macedonians would be willing to cherry pick from a weak assed AMAC rebuttle in order to cut other Macedonians off at the knees. This is all becoming too much.
Until the UMD wakes up they're only fooling themselves. What could they possibly gain by posting that crap? They think Macedonians are blind and need them to read malakasoftheweb articles and then report their findings?

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Old 12-05-2010, 10:20 PM   #5212
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This isn't about the UMD Kafana. I have no problem with people who want to critique the content of the original article, but, when merit is found in a scathing piece of yellow journalism, that's where I draw the line.
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:23 PM   #5213
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This isn't about the UMD Kafana. I have no problem with people who want to critique the content of the original article, but, when merit is found in a scathing piece of yellow journalism, that's where I draw the line.
Well, the UMD posted it so it's impossible to avoid them completely. The more they post the more I shake my head ..
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:55 PM   #5214
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Of course they will, because should this travesty occur, that would be the country's official name.

It was a actually a silly point for the AMAC to raise, but, what else could they do? 129 countries in this world recognize us as Macedonia / Macedonians while even 1 is too many for the AMAC. At the end of the day all they had left to do was sling mud at the author of the orginal article. Very eloquent.

I find it disturbing that Macedonians would be willing to cherry pick from a weak assed AMAC rebuttle in order to cut other Macedonians off at the knees. This is all becoming too much.
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This was not a dig at UMD, but rather I was making a specific point about the ridiculous 129 country argument. The fact that both Greeks and honest Macedonians are aware of this show's us just how dishonest the argument is.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:25 AM   #5215
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Hi EB,
I know it sounds negative. But it merely highlights how limited our support is. When people talk of the many countries referring to Macedonia as Macedonia, the obvious question is whether these countries would continue to support Macedonia as Macedonia if Macedonia does not even support it. I know it sounds utterly stupid, but that is the predicament that Macedonians face on a daily basis due to such an inept government.

The UMD has repeatedly tried to suggest Australia is an enemy of Macedonia because it will not call Macedonia as Macedonia. Australia prefers to use what Macedonia agreed to call itself in the UN. The USA has stated it will accept whatever Macedonia and Greece agree with in the future and was heavily involved in the destabilisation of Macedonia in 2001. Which is a better friend? I would say neither have been particularly friendly.
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I know it sounds negative. But it merely highlights how limited our support is. When people talk of the many countries referring to Macedonia as Macedonia, the obvious question is whether these countries would continue to support Macedonia as Macedonia if Macedonia does not even support it. I know it sounds utterly stupid, but that is the predicament that Macedonians face on a daily basis due to such an inept government.
That's exactly right. The message the Macedonian government is sending is that our identity IS OPEN to negotiation, is a negotiable instrument, and we think it is. A third party looking at this would logically assume that the Greeks must have a valid case.
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It LOOKS nice and I love the wording used (finally) on the racist name talks. I can't stress how important it is to criticize (NGO) the United States Government INCLUDING Phil Reeker when they clearly cross the line regarding the concerns of the Macedonian diaspora. Also, you can't expect to gain support with 99% of your events in Washington DC. You're 5 years old and its time to have annual regional events ie. Christmas dance early December.

PS Do you support freedom of speech ie. WikiLeaks, yes or no? If, you feel it's illegal PLEASE take a much closer look at those criminals in Washington DC. starting
with the CIA and elected officials.
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It LOOKS nice and I love the wording used (finally) on the racist name talks. I can't stress how important it is to criticize (NGO) the United States Government INCLUDING Phil Reeker when they clearly cross the line regarding the concerns of the Macedonian diaspora. Also, you can't expect to gain support with 99% of your events in Washington DC. You're 5 years old and its time to have annual regional events ie. Christmas dance early December.

PS Do you support freedom of speech ie. WikiLeaks, yes or no? If, you feel it's illegal PLEASE take a much closer look at those criminals in Washington DC. starting
with the CIA and elected officials.
Wikileaks has exposed Washington DC and CIA documents calling for the extermination and eradication of Macedonia. Calling Macedonians a "cancer" to be contained.
UMD need to have a really long look at their so called "friends" , if they dont support the release of TRUTH, then UMD are anti-Macedonian and anti Macedonian cause.

PS, dont hold your breath waiting for them to answer you alex
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:37 AM   #5220
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Wikileaks has exposed Washington DC and CIA documents calling for the extermination and eradication of Macedonia. Calling Macedonians a "cancer" to be contained.
UMD need to have a really long look at their so called "friends" , if they dont support the release of TRUTH, then UMD are anti-Macedonian and anti Macedonian cause.

PS, dont hold your breath waiting for them to answer you alex
UMD is NOT an NGO, they have no clue what that entails and work for the US Government.
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