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Old 01-18-2010, 06:29 AM   #1511
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I never accused you of threatening me, but you never ceased to find colorful names for me.

The thing that bothers me is that Vangelovski has been exposed as a liar and a charlatan (in his own "supposed" area of study) and people still take his word as gospel.

I have no problem with you asking questions, when you listen to the answers. By all means, if your actions are made with good intentions and sincerity, I 100% support it and encourage it. But I will not stand for claims with no substance and lies perpetuated by personal agenda.
Buktop, the problem is that you and the other UMD fan club don't want to accept the fact that there's many people who have similar concerns with the direction UMD have taken and certain policy statements made in the last 4 years...much of this current imbroglio is largely due to you and Maknews, both of you have decided in true UMD fashion to decide what is best for everyone else.

When the shit hit the fan over at Maknews, it was you and Maknews who decided that there was nothing wrong with how UMD were conducting their business, you didn't want to hear any UMD related criticism...so don't give your bullshit about "good intentions" and all that other rubbish in your post...
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:30 AM   #1512
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The reason Paul's account was suspended was because he broke several forum rules, plain and simple. He was asked to provide proof for his allegations and could not do so without distorting and misinterpreting news releases.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:32 AM   #1513
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You don't care that I proved your god Vangelovski a liar and a CHARLATAN in his own knowledge of constitutional law? And yet you still blindly devour every word he spews as absolute truth?

All the questions you have just asked have been answered and if you didn't understand the answers then go ask UMD or Meto, don't act like a tough guy on the internet.
What did you prove Charlatan? Have you taken your perverted theories to a law professor or a political philosopher yet?
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:33 AM   #1514
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I didn't realise they were forum rules...
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:33 AM   #1515
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He was asked to provide proof for his allegations and could not do so without distorting and misinterpreting news releases.
How do you interpret the Youtube link suggesting alternate names for Macedonia Buktop?
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If anybody does all of that and seeks to reconcile Meto's statements about the name of Macedonia with UMD policy, are they represented?

Buktop, clearly I am joking. I know we will never get a reconciliation between Meto's statements on Youtube and UMD policy.
You'll never know unless you ask him
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According to your god Vangelovski And by the way, the board members elected Meto as president, Meto gave up his day job, and any other opportunities he could have had and sacrificed his time and his personal life to help Macedonians everywhere. He's not just some part time propagandist like many of the people here on this forum.

And who elected the Board Members?
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Buktop, the problem is that you and the other UMD fan club don't want to accept the fact that there's many people who have similar concerns with the direction UMD have taken and certain policy statements made in the last 4 years...much of this current imbroglio is largely due to you and Maknews, both of you have decided in true UMD fashion to decide what is best for everyone else.

When the shit hit the fan over at Maknews, it was you and Maknews who decided that there was nothing wrong with how UMD were conducting their business, you didn't want to hear any UMD related criticism...so don't give your bullshit about "good intentions" and all that other rubbish in your post...
I had nothing to do with the shit hitting the fan at Maknews, I call a bullshitter a bullshitter when I see them. Paul is a bullshitter and you decided to fall for his unsubstantiated claims hook line and sinker. If you don't like their applause of the troops in Afghanistan then write them about it, don't attack me because I support it.
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What did you prove Charlatan? Have you taken your perverted theories to a law professor or a political philosopher yet?
Why don't you answer the questions from this thread so we can see how much you "know".

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...t=2423&page=12

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And who elected the Board Members?
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The management structures were put in place and people just took on roles (this needs to be done for any upstart organisation)
your quote not mine... Elections to be held 2011
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