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Old 11-11-2010, 03:46 PM   #4991
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Wasn't Delcev a Mason?
I am more concerned with the willingness of these sellouts to play with our identity.
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:15 PM   #4992
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Meto,

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I.H.T. Op-Ed Contributor

The Balkans Can Still Be Lost

By SOREN JESSEN-PETERSEN and DANIEL SERWER

Published: November 10, 2010

As NATO, the United States, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe prepare for summit meetings this fall, the Balkans may yet spoil the party.

The peace-building process there boasts remarkable successes — the end of the Bosnian war, the fall of Slobodan Milosevic and the rise of democratic Serbia, the independence of Kosovo, impending Croatian membership in the E.U. But failure in the Balkans is still a possibility and would embarrass Europeans and Americans alike.

There are three issues that haunt the region: Bosnia and Herzegovina is a country that remains mired in continuing — though currently nonviolent — ethnic tension; relations between Serbia and Kosovo remain unsettled; and Macedonia is unable to join NATO or the European Union until Greece’s objection to its name (which Athens claims for Greece) is resolved.

Bosnia’s problems are rooted in the Constitution imposed on the warring factions 15 years ago at the Dayton peace talks. It creates a nonfunctional state unable to meet the many requirements of either NATO or E.U. membership. Constitutional amendments are required to eliminate discrimination on ethnic grounds and provide the Sarajevo government with the authority and responsibility it needs to negotiate for NATO and E.U. membership.

Efforts to impose such amendments have failed. What Brussels and Washington need to do now is set out clear criteria that Sarajevo will have to meet before and during the E.U. accession process. Recent elections in Bosnia open up new possibilities for reform, and Serbia’s own progress toward the E.U. should depend on its willingness to insist that the Bosnian Serbs cooperate with the country’s Muslims and Croats to amend the Constitution in ways that will make E.U. membership possible.

On Kosovo, the U.N. General Assembly in October recommended that talks begin on practical issues (like trade, energy, environment, health, border facilities, missing persons, return of the displaced) between Belgrade and Pristina, with the E.U. facilitating and the U.S. supporting. This is a good idea whose time has come, but Belgrade will try to use the talks to suggest “corrections” to Kosovo’s borders that would allow Serbia to absorb the Serb communities in northern Kosovo.

This movement of a border to accommodate ethnic differences is dangerous and would open up border questions throughout the Balkans: certainly in Macedonia and Bosnia, but likely also in the Albanian-populated areas of southern Serbia and Montenegro as well. Serbia and Kosovo need to stick to the task at hand, establishing good relations on a host of practical issues on the basis of mutual respect, as required for E.U. accession.

The government in Skopje faces an uphill battle against Athens, which wants “Macedonia” to be qualified in a way that will distinguish it from what Greeks claim to be exclusively their own domain. Without resolution of this issue, Macedonia faces a long purgatory, without the NATO membership for which it has prepared and without any serious prospect of E.U. membership, a prospect that has kept the country’s ethnic groups from descending into internecine warfare.

Brussels and Washington need to untie this knot, which has tightened with every passing year since Macedonia’s independence in 1991. It hardly seems appropriate for Athens to be thumbing its nose at Brussels at a time when it desperately needs E.U. economic backing. For NATO membership, Washington and Brussels should insist that Greece live up to its 1995 agreement to accept Skopje under the euphemistic and anachronistic name “Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (Fyrom).” Provided Skopje is prepared to signal its willingness to add an acceptable geographic qualifier to its name, it is time also for the E.U. to give Macedonia a date for the start of accession talks, a move that would further stabilize the country and also create a strong incentive for Skopje and Athens to come to terms.

The peace-building mission in the Balkans is not yet accomplished, even after 15 years of often close U.S./E.U. cooperation. Only when all the region’s countries are irreversibly on a course toward the E.U. will we be able to celebrate. Likely no more than five more years are required. Until then, we need to keep the Balkans on track, ensuring that Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia remain on the train.

Soren Jessen-Petersen, a Dane and Daniel Serwer, an American, are lecturers at Georgetown University. They have worked on the Balkans for 15 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/op...ssen.html?_r=1
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:52 PM   #4993
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Croatian-Americans Support Macedonia's NATO Membership

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Old 11-11-2010, 09:04 PM   #4994
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Don't wary about the Croatian-Americans.

Its the individuals in the Macedonian diaspora that support NATO membership under the name of fyrom that we should be concerned about.

Do you support NATO Membership?
Actually, Are you Macedonian?
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:11 PM   #4995
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What if NATO and the EU were removed from the UMD itinerary what would you do to pass your time? Since you are dead set (USA) about joining those two organizations can you give any guarantee that by joing these badly outdated organizations that life will greatly improve for the average citizen in Macdonia?

How does American Croation support help the Macedonian Diaspora in Canada, Australia, Germany, England etc.?
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:14 PM   #4996
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Solidarity for Macedonia and Macedonians from Croatian-American organisation/s is a positive development and I salute it. But "UMD" needs to get its own ideological house in order before anything else, IMHO.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:17 PM   #4997
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I have it on good authority the Croatian-Venezuelans are dead set against it though. But the Croatian-Lithuanians are coming around to the idea. Some even want them in NATO as "Macedonia" instead of FYROM ... unlike the UMD.
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:19 PM   #4998
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This survey is still active.... fill it in if you haven't yet It will help The macedonians of Australia with official stats etc
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:34 PM   #4999
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How will it help? Are we sure it won't instead do the opposite?

There's no way of being certain that it is actual Macedonians filling out the survey, it's a completely anonymous online survey and just like every online poll we've ever seen, the Greeks have higher numbers and can sway results in their favour.

I thought, and hoped, there would be more checks and bounds for something like this which, if it were done right, could have amounted to something of use.
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Old 11-13-2010, 09:56 PM   #5000
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i'm filling it in if offends the greeks well tough titties.I'm sure the greeks over the years have offended us macedonians big time so fuck them.

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