20 Years Macedonian Independance

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  • EgejskaMakedonia
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 1665

    #16
    Amazing scenes there, accompanied by some classic folk songs. The city square looks stunning now.
    Let's hope that the messages in the patriotic songs actually get through to both the people and the government.
    Would definitely be a truly inspiring experience to be in attendance, in particular the sekoj da ja znae performance was great.

    The only thing missing here for me is the true Macedonian flag flying from the buildings.

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    • Mikail
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1338

      #17
      20th Anniversary of Independent Macedonia - Skopјe 08.09.2011 (1/4)
      20th anniversary of independent Macedonia (FYROM) Skopјe 08.09.2011 (1/4) - YouTube

      20th Anniversary of Independent Macedonia - Skopјe 08.09.2011 (2/4)
      20th anniversary of independent Macedonia (FYROM) Skopјe 08.09.2011 (2/4) - YouTube

      20th Anniversary of Independent Macedonia - Skopјe 08.09.2011 (3/4)
      20th anniversary of independent Macedonia (FYROM) Skopјe 08.09.2011 (3/4) - YouTube

      20th Anniversary of Independent Macedonia - Skopјe 08.09.2011 (4/4)
      20th anniversary of independent Macedonia (FYROM) Skopјe 08.09.2011 (4/4) - YouTube
      From the village of Ppezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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      • julie
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 3869

        #18
        If the FYR could be dropped, the ventilator flag that was adorned throughout the city was the kutlesh sonce, Gruevski's speech was non existent with name change and EU entry, the FA declared null and void and the warrior have his rightful name, then perhaps some celebration would indeed be in order for a sovereign nation
        "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          #19
          Originally posted by julie View Post
          If the FYR could be dropped, the ventilator flag that was adorned throughout the city was the kutlesh sonce, Gruevski's speech was non existent with name change and EU entry, the FA declared null and void and the warrior have his rightful name, then perhaps some celebration would indeed be in order for a sovereign nation
          Just in regard to the flag, I don't understand why the Kutlesh isn't more prominantly displayed by the average citizen in Macedonia on these national days and celebrations...talk about 'missing' an opportunity to make a point...

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          • makedonche
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 3242

            #20
            Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
            Just in regard to the flag, I don't understand why the Kutlesh isn't more prominantly displayed by the average citizen in Macedonia on these national days and celebrations...talk about 'missing' an opportunity to make a point...
            Phoenix
            Perfect opportunity to wave it around with lots of international media watching! It should be the visual voice of the people!
            On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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            • Phoenix
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4671

              #21
              Originally posted by makedonche View Post
              Phoenix
              Perfect opportunity to wave it around with lots of international media watching! It should be the visual voice of the people!
              ...maybe a worthwhile diaspora initiative would be to donate 'thousands' of Kutlesh flags to the average citizens so they can wave them on days of national importance, including historical, cultural and sporting occassions...it's like hand feeding these people, otherwise it's a never ending battle against their general apathy in matters of national consciousness and self determination...maybe then, will the government, through the whoring machinations of 'politics' will be moved to alter its current reckless course...

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              • makedonche
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 3242

                #22
                Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                ...maybe a worthwhile diaspora initiative would be to donate 'thousands' of Kutlesh flags to the average citizens so they can wave them on days of national importance, including historical, cultural and sporting occassions...it's like hand feeding these people, otherwise it's a never ending battle against their general apathy in matters of national consciousness and self determination...maybe then, will the government, through the whoring machinations of 'politics' will be moved to alter its current reckless course...
                Pheonix
                A worthy cause indeed, preferrably kutlesh flags made in Macedonia and distributed free or given away with every loaf of bread - now that's worth pursuing.
                On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                • lavce pelagonski
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1993

                  #23
                  That is the thing more people need to start waving the Kutlesh sun around. If officialy the government has to plaster Skopje with ventilatori the people should do the opposite.
                  Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.

                  Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил Чакаларов

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                  • makedonche
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3242

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View Post
                    That is the thing more people need to start waving the Kutlesh sun around. If officialy the government has to plaster Skopje with ventilatori the people should do the opposite.
                    Lavce
                    Particularly anywhere there is those offensive other flags from the gjuptsi around!
                    On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                      ...maybe a worthwhile diaspora initiative would be to donate 'thousands' of Kutlesh flags to the average citizens so they can wave them on days of national importance, including historical, cultural and sporting occassions...it's like hand feeding these people, otherwise it's a never ending battle against their general apathy in matters of national consciousness and self determination...maybe then, will the government, through the whoring machinations of 'politics' will be moved to alter its current reckless course...
                      Has merit.
                      But do you think the Eurodonians even care?
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Phoenix
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4671

                        #26
                        Originally posted by makedonche View Post
                        Pheonix
                        A worthy cause indeed, preferrably kutlesh flags made in Macedonia and distributed free or given away with every loaf of bread - now that's worth pursuing.
                        ...if you gave a flag with every packet of ciggies, you'd cover most of the population.

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                        • makedonche
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3242

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                          ...if you gave a flag with every packet of ciggies, you'd cover most of the population.
                          Phoenix
                          Very clever marketing mate.......wrap up the smokes in a kutlesh sonce flag!
                          On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                          • Phoenix
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4671

                            #28
                            Originally posted by makedonche View Post
                            Phoenix
                            Very clever marketing mate.......wrap up the smokes in a kutlesh sonce flag!
                            ...even better idea

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                            • Vangelovski
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 8532

                              #29
                              I'm sure the general public would wave whatever you gave them. I don't think many actually think about what the sonce means and what the ventilator means, as evidenced by quite a few forum members here...

                              I think handing out flags is a good idea, but would include a tiny information card or fridge magnet with them.
                              If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                              The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                              • Niko777
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1895

                                #30
                                WTF?

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