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Isn't it weird that the EU supposedly "helping" Macedonia`s education system while being extremely cautious to NOT pronounce the name of "Macedonia" in pages of reports at the same time???
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Its not weird at all if you come from Brussels EU. The EU goals and educating (Brain washing) is by some, likened to the Nazis.
EU goals is to create one race and call it "Europeans". It would be against their scheme to call Europeans in Macedonia "Macedonians".
I do find strange how lately you hear less (By Macedonians, and Ethnic Albanians that once threatened entering the Union alone) pushing for EU in the Republic of Macedonia. I am not alone on this it seems. The EU would sense the same, which explains why as recently as of June this year, The EU InfoCentre opened its doors for students from the primary and secondary schools, as well as for the university students, in Macedonia.Comment
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Rightfully or wrongly, (i lean towards the latter) The Republic of Macedonia have made many attempts to become a fully fledged member of the EU. Only to be blocked "Vetoed" each time by the EU member state Greece. The voting process in the EU is "A decision must be a unanimous vote". Well that's what we hear.
But things could not be further from the truth.
In June 2008 the people of Ireland had rejected the Brussels EU construct in a resounding NO. Mr Giscard d'Estaing (CHAIRMAN OF THE EUROPEAN CONVENTION) told the Irish Times that Ireland's referendum rejection would not kill the Treaty, despite a legal requirement of unanimity from all the EU's 27 member states.
"We are evolving towards majority voting because if we stay with unanimity, we will do nothing," he said.
"It is impossible to function by unanimity with 27 members. This time it's Ireland; the next time it will be somebody else."
Giscard d'Estaing believed "there was no alternative" to a second Irish vote, a view also shared at the time, by Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President. Mr Sarkozy, who was to take over the EU's rotating presidency, said to use a Brussels summit (back in October 15) to force Ireland to find a way out of Europe's Treaty difficulties.
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EU/MAFIA
Brussels decided to ignore the Irish NO vote, and they bribed the Irish government into holding a second referendum and coerced a YES vote with a staggering amount of money to Dublin.
Here other useful related articles.Campaigners for a "No" vote have threatened a legal challenge after 1.1 million copies of the European Union booklet were distributed, at a cost to the taxpayer of £139,000............The EU Commission, with the massive funds and resources available to it, courtesy of the taxpayer, can just throw money at influencing Irish opinion prior to the vote............Irish expatriates living in Brussels, and often working in the EU institutions, have been offered free Ryanair flights to Dublin, as long as they campaign for a Yes vote.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-unlawful.html
Betraying liberal democratic principles in the EU
EU Observer, 30 September 2009
EU intervention in Irish referendum 'unlawful'
The Daily Telegraph (UK), 29 September 2009
The only sane course is to say No to this undemocratic formula
The Irish Times, 24 September 2009
Corporate interests drowning out ordinary voter
The Irish Times, 14 September 2009
Voting until they get it right in the European Union
The Washington Examiner, 28 August 2009
New referendum guidelines for commercial broadcasters
The Irish Times, 6 August 2009
Government has abandoned democracy to get a 'Yes' vote
The Independent (Ireland), 27 June 2009
Clarified Lisbon Treaty the very same
The Irish Times, 25 June 2009
EU commission plans to 'force' Irish to vote Yes on Lisbon
theParliament.com, 18 March 2009
EU Constitution author says referendums can be ignored
The Daily Telegraph (UK), 26 June 2008
Irish voters sign death warrant for EU's Lisbon treaty
The Times (UK), 14 June 2008
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Fair point indeed.Originally posted by Sputnik View Post
If Ireland can be coerced and Slovakia recently as well. One would think that Greece would surely sit and sook in the corner after being told in no uncertain terms that Macedonia must get in.
Not that I want Macedonia in btw.
So it is peculiar that this has not happened already. But perhaps bigger plans exist for deconstructing Greece.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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The United States of Europe
One currency, one power, one nation
Forced fed propoganda to schoolchildren
I found the EU flag flying everywhere in Macedonia quite distasteful"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse DelchevComment
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Speaking of Slovakia.
Just recently, Slovakia's parliament voted down expansion of Europe bailout fund.
Shortly afterwards, Slovak government collapses.
And what is this "political Conditions" that the European Council chief Herman Van Rompuy might have been hinting?"Slovakia has to create political conditions which will allow a positive vote on the EFSF as soon as possible,"
European Council chief Herman Van Rompuy said.
Prime Minister Iveta Radicova had made the issue into a vote of confidence in order to pass the EFSF bill
http://euobserver.com/19/113895
The Brussels EU portrays itself to the world as a shining example of the 21st century democracy.
But its got to be their terms. This is the problem with the west and democracy.
The west decide on what is democracy and what is not. In a dictatorial way, they create a measuring stick and adjust the hight of the bar as they please, to suit their own purpose. There are many many examples of double standards, (what's good for one doesn't apply for another) such as the rules of a voting process i just mentioned above, and conditions set for Macedonia (just to name a couple).
Post WW2, "communism" became a dirty word, mainly in the US. If you (State or American citizen) did not abide by their rules, spoke out in anyway, you were loosely labelled a "comi". Once this word "communist" was unjustly attached to a person, or Nation, you became a threat, target and someone evil, an enemy. This would then give the US reason (excuse), a licence to mistreat you, invade, kill, in order to shut you up or take control of you.
Today, the term "communist" (which has no more use since communism does not and never really did exist), has been replaced with "Undemocratic" (autocratic, dictatorial, totalitarian, feudal etc ) and be placed as a nation on a list headed, "Axis of Evil". Or if you are a Muslim and a state governmental system, or a decision-making method differs (according to religion), you are a fundamentalist or a plain old terrorist. There now is a wider range to pick from, where one can be placed and then used as the dark side. Then Someone that needs to be muzzled, sovereignty taken away, laws forced on them, can now be achieved at any cost, and what ever it takes, then these actions would be all excused and justified.Last edited by Sputnik; 10-31-2011, 09:45 PM.Comment
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The poor Slovakian government has been overthrown immediately by the European commission, a day after their refusal of bailout fund.
I said poor because Greeks wanna do referendum now about this bailout fund, so if Greeks says NO in the end, then poor Slovakian government would have been overthrown for nothing. Not only being overthrown by a post-modern coup by eurocrats, probably these Slovakian politicians career is over too because they branded as "anti-EU" and i am sure that they have already been demonized by pro-EU people in Slovakia.Comment
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Notice how the Greek referendum is planned for early next year?
Well after the funds are received from the IMF. Hopefully it will be well after the fall of the euro and the Union.
This call for referendum by the current Greek government puppets (no doubt a idea devised by Brussels) is aimed to silence the Greek protests temporarily, atleast untill the new year.
Also, moments after he announced a referendum, Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou (is said by some to be taking a political gamble) called for a confidence vote. The confidence vote is expected to be held on Friday.
Brussels will make sure Papandreou will keep his job (if thats what they prefer), even if the Greek parliament will have to vote over and over as many times to get the best outcome for Brussels. Its EU democracy.Last edited by Sputnik; 11-01-2011, 08:56 AM.Comment
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I agree Sputnik. This plan should be made in Brussels. I can only believe that this was a decision solely taken by Papandreu if Brussels overthrows his government and replace it with a new obedient one like they did in Slovakia. BUT if Brussels stays silent and accepts this referendum idea, then i would be absolutely sure that this plan has been made in Brussels to gain some more time, end the protestations of Greek people and possibly save the future political career of Papandreu family.Originally posted by Sputnik View Post
Greek bankruptcy is inevitable. When this happens, Papandreu`s political career is already over because he was the one who supported these austerity measures and told like these would supposedly save Greek economy. He will be seen as the destroyer of their european dream.after he announced a referendum, Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou (is said by some to be taking a political gamble)
So, why not gamble for something that he will eventually loose??? This maybe his only chance to save his career. That should be hurtful for him because you know, these two Papandreu and Karamanlis families are ruling Greece for nearly a century, father to son and to a grandson.Last edited by Onur; 11-01-2011, 01:08 PM.Comment
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i heard how they are proposing a referendum that is really stupid & they are trying to cover their hellarses.The austerity measures don't really cover the entire debt & is just piecemeal pretending to deal with the matter."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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If I was the head of the EU I wouldn't be shocked by Papandraeou's call for a referendum, I would simply be telling him to find money on the open markets if he isn't happy with the EU bailout fund, or face the consequences. This appearance of sudden surprise or shock is part of the plan from the EU, they are implicitly involved in everything Greece does or is going to do, because they own their arses! This is a ploy to distract the masses and give them the opportunity to tighten the noose around their necks, so they can't blame the government for the situation! Coincidentally it gives the French & German banks in Greece time to impliment thier exit strategy and reduce their losses! So there we have it, the people stop rioting, EU smells like roses, Greek people sign their futures away and Papandreaou retains his political career!
On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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i think they are just iverting from the real issues thats affecting greece."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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GeorgeOriginally posted by George S. View Post
I reckon they are just trying to hide their true intentions and plans!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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that's it they don't want people to know what they are upto.They got a hidden agenda."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
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