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Old 09-28-2018, 08:14 PM   #6691
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Sorry agreed True Macedonians are everywhere.
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Old 09-29-2018, 10:53 PM   #6692
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Thanks for all that recent info! As you know, I was familiar with that church when younger and recall several Macedonian "uprisings". I recall whispers of MPO, usually with a Macedonian or English curse word in from of it. I also recall graffiti in the men's room. Have not been their in decades, did not realize the politics until many years later and am still learning. I just recall we always had Macedonians, Bulgarians , a few "Greeks", and Armenians. (The Greeks didn't speak Greek )We also had a few "Amerikanski" from the surrounding are, which was cool.

I do know that several years ago I heard a story that Mike Ilitich offered them a sum of money to either combine with one of the MOC's or to repair St. Clement. They chose the latter. (Can you confirm or debunk this?). I'd be interested. I always recall hearing MPO in whispers there, but was raised 100% Macedonian. This vote thing is killing me...
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Old 07-14-2020, 10:03 AM   #6693
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https://umdiaspora.org/cpt_services/...and-education/
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UMD reiterates its unwavering support for retention of the one and only constitutional and rightful name of Macedonia, rejects all attempts to change or impose any other name upon Macedonia and the Macedonian people, and calls upon the Macedonian government to cease the ongoing UN talks and to submit a resolution before the UN General Assembly to be re-admitted to the UN under its one and only constitutional and rightful name — the Republic of Macedonia.
A far cry from their stances back in the day. But I suppose people can change. This was interesting also:

https://umdiaspora.org/cpt_services/advocacy-2/
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The role of the Australia Macedonia Parliamentary Friendship Group (AMPFG) is to promote closer, better quality and more meaningful relations with the Republic of Macedonia and its diaspora in Australia through innovative and high impact policies, programs, projects and events that deliver better social, economic and environmental outcomes for all key stakeholders. Below is a list of members and friends of the AMPFG.
I am not sure what UMD's involvement is with the AMPFG or why they are promoting this group on their website. Two people on the list caught my attention: Mr Steve Georganas MP and Ms Maria Vamvakinou MP. A short search online produced the following:
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June 2013 - After Stephen Jones, a Member of Parliament for Australia’s Labor Party gave a speech insisting that his country recognize FYROM as The Republic of Macedonia, Foreign Minister Bob Carr gave reassurances that the government didn’t back him. Carr told Steve Georganas, Vice-President of the Parliament, that “The policy of Australia to the Skopje issue remains stable,” and didn’t expect it would change. Georganas had asked him to give a definitive stance.
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May 2019 - An effective spokesperson for the Greek community in Canberra, she has crusaded for a number of issues, and has worked alongside other Greek-Australian federal politicians to align Australia’s foreign policy with the needs of the diaspora on matters such as the Cyprus Occupation and the name dispute with the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
How would those two promote closer, better quality and more meaningful relations? Perhaps a bit of due diligence every now and then.
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Old 07-14-2020, 09:27 PM   #6694
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these guys made a "wikipedia strike force" and got their asses handed to them. Next time they should be careful not to publicly announce such plans.
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