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Prolet · 01-21-2010, 08:39 PM

Good point Bratot

Би-Би-Си: Корупцијата во Грција причина за кризата во земјата

21.01.2010
Атина

Корупцијата во Грција е толку голема што таа е причина за сегашната тешка економска ситуација во земјата, изјави на раководителот на грчката филијала на „Транспаренси Интернешнл“, Константинос Бакурис.

Во интервју за Би-Би-Си, тој вели дека корупцијата во Грција, заедно со масовно раширеното неплаќање и затајување данок, се „круцијални“ за сегашната криза и за тоа што земјата се најде пред банкрот.

Според Бакурис, дури 30 отсто од бруто домашниот производ на земјата се води како непријавен.

Грција ќе беше во многу подобра ситуација ако грчките граѓани ги пријавуваа своите приходи и за нив плаќаа данок, изјави раководителот на „Транспаренси“ во Атина, забележувајќи дека и можноста за побрзо стабилизирање ќе беше полесно изводлива.

Бакурис објаснува дека за да се добие некоја зделка или некаков проект, зад кој стои грчката Влада, мора да се биде близок или поврзан со некого од владините функционери или да му се изгради имот, ако станува збор за некаков градежен проект.

Владата на ПАСОК најави остра и бескомпромисна пресметка со корупцијата, ставајќи ги мерките за нејзиното сузбивање и даночната реформа во врвот на стабилизациониот пакет, но Констатниос Бакурис за Би-Би-Си вели дека не верува во она што го ветува Владата на Папандреу.

Истото тоа го ветуваа пред неа и другите грчки владини администрации, постигнувајќи притоа само делумни резултати, забележува Бакурис.

Министерот за финансии Георгиос Папаконстантину, меѓутоа, тврди дека тоа „овој пат нема да се случи“ и дека новата Влада ќе истрае на своите остри стабилизациони мерки.

Според Би-Би-Си, Владата во Атина и не може поинаку затоа што ситуацијата во земјата е драматично влошена. Долгот на Грција сега го надминува годишниот БДП на земјата. Тој е повеќе од четири пати повисок од максимално дозволениот и толериран долг во рамките на еврозоната, а земјата има драстичен пад на нејзиниот кредитен рејтинг.

http://www.a1.com.mk/vesti/default.aspx?VestID=118921

Silver · 01-21-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelister

You practically had an entire geneaology of our Greek/Vlach descent worked out at Maknews.

If you feel that you do not need to be honest, then you're a lying bastard which is what I suspected from the start anyway.

Keep my personal details out of the forum. I don't know who you are, and I don't really care, but using personal names of people who choose to have a forum name without their consent or permission is crossing a confidential line. If you want to talk to me on a personal level, PM me.

I am no big patriot and I am no big intellectual - I don't even come close. Its people like BC, SoM, RTG, Prolet, Bratot, Osiris, TM, Daskalot, Phoenix, Indigen and so many others who feel enormous pride about being Macedonians and want to defend our position. My faith in Macedonians has been shaken by these negotiations, by UMD and those like them. And its no secret that I am frustrated by the lunacy of it all.

But I can see when the Macedonian people are being royally skrewed over by people like yourself. By the tiny group of men and women who speak for them, speak on behalf of them in international and political forums - and are ever ready to stab them in the back. By those who fully back all the current structures and frameworks that have put impossible terms to the Macedonians, terms put to them by Greece and backed by Europe and NATO. The slavish worship of these institutions at UMD is neaseating.

As for your bullshit views (As Dzog "the Greek of Vlach descent") that the Macedonian people need not be consulted, or asked whether they want their historical identity negotiatined in the first place - you can go fk yourself - because if they were actually asked tommorrow whether they want this to continue or not the answer would be 'No'.

You took particular care to make sure you had a few digs at me personally while I was being censored at Maknews for my criticism of UMD. I won't forget what you did, whoever you claim to be.

Never give up Pelister, Macedonia needs you!

Pelister · 01-21-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buktop

Do you have Proof?

I think that I can post Meto Koloski's statement that Macedonia "MUST MODIFY ITS NAME" ... a thousand times, along with all of the others, it won't make any different to you or the others at UMD. Denial is a sure sign there is no way out for you and UMD. The way you and UMD are handling this suggests the writing is on the wall. UMD's efforts to attack its critics by censoring them won't help them overcome these historical policy blunders. Sure they can throw other peoples money around, but how far will that get them? Denying that the President and Vice-president of UMD did not say those things means that any policy shift or policy change at UMD, if it was ever possible is now almost certainly never to happen.

The only alternative is for the President and Vice-President to resign, to be replaced by someone like Jordan.

UMDiaspora.org · 01-21-2010, 10:36 PM

http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/456/1/

WASHINGTON, D.C. – January 21, 2010 – United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) welcomes the decision of the Republic of Macedonia today to send $100,000 to assist the victims of Haiti’s devastating earthquake. Macedonia’s government also announced that additionally it will send a medical team to Haiti to directly assist the victims. Recently, the Republic of Macedonia’s capital city, Skopje, announced its intention to send another 25,000 Euros to Haiti.

“We are proud that, as a member of the international community, Macedonia is doing its part to bring relief to the people of Haiti,” stated UMD President Metodija A. Koloski. “Macedonians deeply sympathize with the plight of the Haitian people.”

Last week, UMD encouraged its membership and Macedonians throughout the world to donate to relief efforts for Haiti. According to current estimates, the devastating earthquake in Haiti has left up to 200,000 dead and almost 3 million homeless.

UMDiaspora.org · 01-22-2010, 06:43 PM

Public Talk (23 Feb, 2010), 3:30 pm.

Metodija Koloski, President, United Macedonian Diaspora.
“Integrating Macedonia into Global Institutions: The Role of the Macedonian Diaspora.” Since gaining independence in 1991, the Republic of Macedonia has transformed itself from a one party socialist state to a vibrant democracy and resilient economy. Macedonia is now qualified to join NATO, the EU and engage with the Asia-Pacific in search for a sustainable future. The Macedonian diaspora in Australia, Europe, and North America has played an important role in this transformation and repositioning.

The talk will place in the Wood Seminar Room (Old Kirk room 406). It is free and open to the public.

For more information, click: http://www.victoria.ac.nz/antipodean...ng-events.aspx

Phoenix · 01-23-2010, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

Public Talk (23 Feb, 2010), 3:30 pm.

Metodija Koloski, President, United Macedonian Diaspora.
“Integrating Macedonia into Global Institutions: The Role of the Macedonian Diaspora.”

Sounds like quite an appropriate theme Meto, it will provide a golden and timely opportunity for you to set the record straight, considering the recent debates on here and other forums regarding UMD's previous statements.

Meto, choose your words very carefully...there's going to be many interested listeners and viewers...

Buktop · 01-23-2010, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

I'm fully aware of article 8, Charlatan. You need to learn some key concepts before you start interpreting constitutions. Have you taken your idiotic theories to a law professor or political philosopher yet?

They are not theories when the actual article exists, and is followed by a government, get that through your thick skull...

Buktop · 01-23-2010, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelister

I think that I can post Meto Koloski's statement that Macedonia "MUST MODIFY ITS NAME" ... a thousand times, along with all of the others, it won't make any different to you or the others at UMD. Denial is a sure sign there is no way out for you and UMD. The way you and UMD are handling this suggests the writing is on the wall. UMD's efforts to attack its critics by censoring them won't help them overcome these historical policy blunders. Sure they can throw other peoples money around, but how far will that get them? Denying that the President and Vice-president of UMD did not say those things means that any policy shift or policy change at UMD, if it was ever possible is now almost certainly never to happen.

The only alternative is for the President and Vice-President to resign, to be replaced by someone like Jordan.

Should I re-post all of Rogi's and TM's responses to those quotes that you so conveniently ignored?

Prolet · 01-23-2010, 06:13 AM

Phoenix, You make a good point but just remember one thing. Its not what somebody says as we all know we've had many sweet talkers in our time, its what they promise and deliver this is what counts.

Boge · 01-23-2010, 06:41 AM

Zimi sve najmilo vie ne ste salam. Abe so kur ve boli koga ima organizacija so pokazuva inicijativa da odi duri do novi zeland. Pa vie ne ste salam, bogami ova e glupo. Aj da se soberime i nije barem da odime so nasata organizacija.

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01-21-2010, 10:36 PM	#1714
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	UMD Welcomes Macedonia’s Contribution to Haiti Relief Effort http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/456/1/ WASHINGTON, D.C. – January 21, 2010 – United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) welcomes the decision of the Republic of Macedonia today to send $100,000 to assist the victims of Haiti’s devastating earthquake. Macedonia’s government also announced that additionally it will send a medical team to Haiti to directly assist the victims. Recently, the Republic of Macedonia’s capital city, Skopje, announced its intention to send another 25,000 Euros to Haiti. “We are proud that, as a member of the international community, Macedonia is doing its part to bring relief to the people of Haiti,” stated UMD President Metodija A. Koloski. “Macedonians deeply sympathize with the plight of the Haitian people.” Last week, UMD encouraged its membership and Macedonians throughout the world to donate to relief efforts for Haiti. According to current estimates, the devastating earthquake in Haiti has left up to 200,000 dead and almost 3 million homeless. __________________ For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at: United Macedonian Diaspora http://www.umdiaspora.org 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected] PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected] 3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

01-22-2010, 06:43 PM	#1715
UMDiaspora.org Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: United States, Australia, Canada Posts: 525	UMD President to Speak at Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand Public Talk (23 Feb, 2010), 3:30 pm. Metodija Koloski, President, United Macedonian Diaspora. “Integrating Macedonia into Global Institutions: The Role of the Macedonian Diaspora.” Since gaining independence in 1991, the Republic of Macedonia has transformed itself from a one party socialist state to a vibrant democracy and resilient economy. Macedonia is now qualified to join NATO, the EU and engage with the Asia-Pacific in search for a sustainable future. The Macedonian diaspora in Australia, Europe, and North America has played an important role in this transformation and repositioning. The talk will place in the Wood Seminar Room (Old Kirk room 406). It is free and open to the public. For more information, click: http://www.victoria.ac.nz/antipodean...ng-events.aspx __________________ For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at: United Macedonian Diaspora http://www.umdiaspora.org 1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected] PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected] 3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

01-21-2010, 08:39 PM	#1711
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Good point Bratot Би-Би-Си: Корупцијата во Грција причина за кризата во земјата 21.01.2010 Атина Корупцијата во Грција е толку голема што таа е причина за сегашната тешка економска ситуација во земјата, изјави на раководителот на грчката филијала на „Транспаренси Интернешнл“, Константинос Бакурис. Во интервју за Би-Би-Си, тој вели дека корупцијата во Грција, заедно со масовно раширеното неплаќање и затајување данок, се „круцијални“ за сегашната криза и за тоа што земјата се најде пред банкрот. Според Бакурис, дури 30 отсто од бруто домашниот производ на земјата се води како непријавен. Грција ќе беше во многу подобра ситуација ако грчките граѓани ги пријавуваа своите приходи и за нив плаќаа данок, изјави раководителот на „Транспаренси“ во Атина, забележувајќи дека и можноста за побрзо стабилизирање ќе беше полесно изводлива. Бакурис објаснува дека за да се добие некоја зделка или некаков проект, зад кој стои грчката Влада, мора да се биде близок или поврзан со некого од владините функционери или да му се изгради имот, ако станува збор за некаков градежен проект. Владата на ПАСОК најави остра и бескомпромисна пресметка со корупцијата, ставајќи ги мерките за нејзиното сузбивање и даночната реформа во врвот на стабилизациониот пакет, но Констатниос Бакурис за Би-Би-Си вели дека не верува во она што го ветува Владата на Папандреу. Истото тоа го ветуваа пред неа и другите грчки владини администрации, постигнувајќи притоа само делумни резултати, забележува Бакурис. Министерот за финансии Георгиос Папаконстантину, меѓутоа, тврди дека тоа „овој пат нема да се случи“ и дека новата Влада ќе истрае на своите остри стабилизациони мерки. Според Би-Би-Си, Владата во Атина и не може поинаку затоа што ситуацијата во земјата е драматично влошена. Долгот на Грција сега го надминува годишниот БДП на земјата. Тој е повеќе од четири пати повисок од максимално дозволениот и толериран долг во рамките на еврозоната, а земјата има драстичен пад на нејзиниот кредитен рејтинг. http://www.a1.com.mk/vesti/default.aspx?VestID=118921

01-23-2010, 06:13 AM	#1719
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	Phoenix, You make a good point but just remember one thing. Its not what somebody says as we all know we've had many sweet talkers in our time, its what they promise and deliver this is what counts.

01-23-2010, 06:41 AM	#1720
Boge Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 157	Zimi sve najmilo vie ne ste salam. Abe so kur ve boli koga ima organizacija so pokazuva inicijativa da odi duri do novi zeland. Pa vie ne ste salam, bogami ova e glupo. Aj da se soberime i nije barem da odime so nasata organizacija.

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