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Old 12-18-2020, 01:19 AM   #111
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Aleksandrov declined to assist the Bulgarian Communist Party in its uprising against the government of Aleksandar Tsankov, decaring "We, the Macedonians, are now in government. The government of Tsankov is our government...."

Aleksandrov further justified his actions against the partisans during the uprising by condemning their choice to conduct activity in the district of Petrič, claiming "This territory [Pirin Macedonia] exists outside of the affairs of the Principality [Bulgaria], counting that this is not Bulgaria, but Macedonia and accordingly is within the space of the sovereign occupation of VMRO"
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At the time VMRO(A) first established contact with the Soviet Union in 1924, Todor Aleksandrov had already been establishing relations between the organisation and the Kosovar Committee, the Croatian Peasant Republican Party and unspecified "Montenegrin revolutionaries"
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LoM, I can appreciate that you're taking an interest in topics such as Aleksandrov, VMRO-A and the controversies that surround them, but a number of your recent posts almost seem like notes in a scrapbook. I assume you're using Todorovski's biography or compilation of letters for information on these topics. Why don't you at least cite the source, page number and quote some of the text when you're producing information? That way it can be validated and referenced by others.
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SoM, I have realised whilst posting these I should have recorded page numbers which I did not. Next time I go through a book like this I will but for this one all I can confirm is that the information is all taken from Zoran Todorovski's biography which includes an extensive bibliography
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Interview with Goce Delčev's grand-niece from 12 minutes in

She claims people like Todor Aleksandrov were traitors and recalls an incident during the 20th anniversary of the Ilinden Uprising in Sofia where a speaker praising Aleksandrov was condemned by the Delčev family. (All according to the Wikipedia article on her that cites this interview as reference).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8yI...GoranMarkovski
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Interview with Goce Delčev's grand-niece from 12 minutes in

She claims people like Todor Aleksandrov were traitors and recalls an incident during the 20th anniversary of the Ilinden Uprising in Sofia where a speaker praising Aleksandrov was condemned by the Delčev family. (All according to the Wikipedia article on her that cites this interview as reference).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8yI...GoranMarkovski


Aleksandrov's first decision after taking the helm of VMRO in 1919 was to give a pension of 500 leva to Gotse Delchev's father.
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The Macedonian revolutionary Todor Aleksandrov in an interview dated November 2, 1923 described Macedonia as the land of Alexander the Great, of St. Cyril and Methodius and St. Clement of Ohrid. Aleksandrov was interviewed by the Vienna newspaper "Reichspost" (Reichspost) less than a year before he was killed on the orders of the Bulgarian imperial court, which, in turn, continuously aimed to infiltrate and take over VMRO and suppress the struggle for an independent Macedonian state. In the interview, Aleksadrov clearly points out the Macedonians as a special people and mentions other minorities living in Macedonia - Turks, Albanians, Greeks and others. Aleksandrov explained that the terrible conditions caused by the terror of the occupying authorities in divided Macedonia convinced him that the Macedonian people can be freed only by an independent struggle and only through a strong fighting organization.



"Even during my first stay in Macedonia, I managed to create a dense network of organizations, in whose ranks are recruited not only Macedonians but also other minorities, such as Turks, Albanians, Romanians, and even Greeks. There are no local Serbs in Macedonia at all. ... The whole nation, all Macedonians are my soldiers, while I am only the first of them in the fight. The claim of the Serbs that the Macedonian troops are trained in Bulgaria and cross the borders is just a legend. All of us who were born in the land of Alexander the Great, Cyril and Methodius and St. Kliment, we are one in flesh and blood. Our aspirations can be summed up in the following words: Freedom or death! It is true when I say that there is no power on Earth that cannot destroy our Organization without risking bleeding…”

SOURCE: Reichspost, Vienna, November 2, 1923, p. 3-4.
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Great find VMRO.
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