United Macedonia Diaspora

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Dimko-piperkata

they can´t be macedonians....they´re only of macedonian descent.

I agree Dimko, I think that was well put.

[TajnataKniga]

so i take it u voted?

[TajnataKniga]

wow, im impressed. about time!

[TajnataKniga]

Originally Posted by Buktop

Wow is right, you have nothing better to do than take up space in this thread with stupid posts like this.

you tell'em buktop!

[Soldier of Macedon]

About time for what?

[Jankovska]

Originally Posted by Prolet

Jankovska, Now im pro Croatian?? Well tell me one Balkan country or any country that is building a Macedonian Orthodox Church in the center of their capital city?? I tend to respect those that respect me, i've been to Croatia on many occasions and its bloody fantastic the Hercegovci there just need to learn that you dont serve kebapi with ajvar LOL

SOM, If we crushed the Albanian Terrorists we wouldnt have signed that disgraceful ramkoven dogovor would we?? This is part of the problem and i only gave the Croats as an example i can only hope that we do better then them, this is why we need an organization like the Diaspora to bring our communities world wide closer to Stari Kraj, Im not blaming you for our failures we all failed and its a dam shame however we need to be more organized so it doesnt happen again, lets look at the positives and work with what we got.

Take a chill pill mate, I don't care if you are Pro anything. Relax.
I don't want to be compared to the Croats or the Serbs or take examples of them. Those people did the most horrible scary things in the war. Everyones worst nightmare. We are better than that. What have they got?Territory? Wow big fucking deal? Kolku majki samo nosat crni samii na dvete strani? You guys seem to think it's all so nice and easy, let's go to war, do this, do that? Are you ready to die is the question? The croatian Diaspora was good, haha yeah right they are. They didn't have to go to war and be killed or have to kill.
As for the UMD lay off all, please. They have an email, contact details, why don't you go ask them any concerns you have? I am writing my email to MEto, do yours too, ama dosta so ovoj kako babi na zadusnica.
Prolet once again please grow up or go back to Croatia.

[Jankovska]

Originally Posted by Big Bad Sven

Macedonians are the most passive and good hearted people in the Balkans, and perhaps the world.

However I think some times our kind hearts and good nature are taken advantage of.

Looking at the Croats, and many other peoples who have minority or land issues they are doing much better then the Macedonians.

I don’t see how the passive and self hating and self defeatist attitudes set by Macedonian governments can be seen as a positive. For me I was absolutely disgusted at seeing Macedonians getting drunk, dancing on the streets and waving American flags during the referendum that would have set them free from shiptar terrorism. Those that weren’t getting pissed and wearing shirts with American flags didn’t want to vote in favor of the referendum because they where too scared that the Albanians will go to war with them again and win…..

What self respecting people would allow those Albanian pigs to build museums for the shiptar terrorists that killed and tortured so many people? What type of government allows entire towns and cities to have HUNDREDS of foreign flag flying every where? Even most of Kicevo, a town once that was mainly Macedonian is now another Balkan joke of a town with hundreds of Albanian flags and pictures of that piece of shit Ali Ahmeti every where.

Why did we allow our flag and name to be changed in the 90’s? We should have stormed in Gligorov’s office and DEMANDED he change his mind. Why are we still allowing the Macedonian government to wheel and deal our name and identity? Why are we so eager to get into the EU and NATO, whilst they treat us with absolutely no respect? To me it seems like Macedonians don’t give a fvck.

And btw, what’s the status of the Aegean Macedonians? Seems like its only the people in their 80’s that still cling on to the Macedonian cause, but their grand kids are happy playing “greek” and reaping the benefits of being a “greek” in the magical EU. The Pirin Macedonians? Oh that’s right the government and majority of the people have forgot about them…..

I guess it may be easy for me to be critical of Macedonians and the Macedonian government from my cozy and safe house in Australia and will never understand the “hard” and “dangerous” lives of Macedonians living back in the old country, but in saying that im tired of seeing Macedonians and the Macedonian country being treated with no respect. I hate seeing what’s happening in Northwest Macedonia and the “shiptar expansion”, and its crap at seeing my people die out in Pirin, Aegean and even Albania.

In my opinion people like the Croats are in a much more better position then us, whether the yanks won the war for them or not. At least they are free in their own country. At least the Croats in Bosnia have full rights. At least they are treated with respect and dignity.

I don't think they are better off. The nightmares of the war don't go away so easy. BEtter off are the rich, ne selanite sto se borija.

[Silver]

The suggestion regarding a special subsection for organizations is a great one. Let Macknews have nothing but UMD threads from now on. In fact, the name should be changed to UMDnews and Buktop can be their editor-in-chief. They can censor out anything they don't like and leave in only the UMD friendly stuff. Also since UMD and Mr. Macknews are such good friends with MPO, then why not add them to the party? Obviously, if UMD can see how little public interest they have on their own website why should they be allowed to clog up public spaces like these forums with their endless announcements and threads which more and more seem to be just a form of self promotional marketing strategy with very little substance indeed.

Any organization should let their actions with time run their course so that people can make up their minds whether or not they agree and want to support that particular organization. They should for the most part stay out of public discussion. Let their actions speak for themselves because it's actions that count not words, or fluff, or Buktop running from thread to thread talking down anyone who has a beef with UMD. By the way Mr. Buktop when you claim never to have heard of the MPO prior to reading about them on Macknews (on another thread) indicates that for a guy who knows it all you sure know very little.

Any Jersey swamp land for sale?

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by TajnataKniga

wow, im impressed. about time!

TK, given your apologetic stance with UMD I will assume you are welcoming a nice gesture of support for UMD in this instance. I would be the first one to say "wow, im impressed. about time!" when the UMD leadership reconciles its public statements with UMD policy.

That would really impress me. If you think there has been a UMD witch hunt here, then you need to understand this line of questioning has existed for a very long time. If I was going to advertise in a newspaper, I would consider the editorial opinion and how it impacts upon my marketing strategy.

[Buktop]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

Charlatan,

You're ridiculousness will forever be immortalised here - Lubi is not here to delete your garbage and cover your butt. By you're "logic" Parliamantarians can "legally" do ANYTHING as long as it is not specifically prohibited by the constitution!?!?!?! Does this include fraud? Fraud isn't specifically prohibited by the constitution.

Well neither are motor-vehicle regulation or aero-transport regulation, why are governments then allowed to regulate them?

Fraud is covered specifically under criminal legal codes, not in a constitution.