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  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    #16
    Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
    Lets not forget about the name Heraclea Lyncestis, which would tie it to Hellenic origins would it not?
    Neither Bitola nor Monastirion has anything to do with that name, so lets not complicate this further.

    Keep it to what you stated first and that was Monastirion.
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    • Makedonia
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 76

      #17
      Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
      Neither Bitola nor Monastirion has anything to do with that name, so lets not complicate this further.

      Keep it to what you stated first and that was Monastirion.
      I don't think it complicates but rather clarifies the origins of the city.

      The names Bitola and Monastirion came after Heraclea if my sources are correct.

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      • Daniel
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 51

        #18
        Yes, but Heraclea is not necessarily Greek as the religion was not specific to the Greeks.

        Lynkestis was a region of Northern Macedonia in which the city was buit, which Greeks worldwide consider to be the more 'barbaric (non-Greek)' Macedonia.

        So in saying this, i would not believe a Greek origin of the city.

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        • Daskalot
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4345

          #19
          Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
          I don't think it complicates but rather clarifies the origins of the city.

          The names Bitola and Monastirion came after Heraclea if my sources are correct.
          Heraclea is older, yes. Does it make it Greek in the modern sense of the word, no. Was it a part of the city states further to the south, no.

          So what is your point my dear Sir?
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          • Jankovska
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1774

            #20
            Originally posted by Daniel View Post
            Yes, but Heraclea is not necessarily Greek as the religion was not specific to the Greeks.

            Lynkestis was a region of Northern Macedonia in which the city was buit, which Greeks worldwide consider to be the more 'barbaric (non-Greek)' Macedonia.

            So in saying this, i would not believe a Greek origin of the city.
            Heraclea was founded by Philip himself, a MACEDONIAN KING.

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            • Makedonia
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 76

              #21
              I believe in the Greek origin of the city.

              The town was named in honor of the mythological Greek hero Heracles.

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              • Makedonia
                Banned
                • Sep 2008
                • 76

                #22
                Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
                Heraclea was founded by Philip himself, a MACEDONIAN KING.
                Agreed.

                Refer to my signature for clarification.

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                • Jankovska
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1774

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
                  I believe in the Greek origin of the city.

                  The town was named in honor of the mythological Greek hero Heracles.
                  So? It was founded by Philip, Macedonian King who concurred the Greeks. It was seen as the most barbaric city at the time
                  What are you on about?

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                  • Jankovska
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1774

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
                    Agreed.

                    Refer to my signature for clarification.

                    Hehehe he was a Hellene all right, concurred them and made them slaves. If he were you should be ashamed of him, he killed your brothers and sisters.

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                    • Daskalot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4345

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
                      I believe in the Greek origin of the city.

                      The town was named in honor of the mythological Greek hero Heracles.
                      Sir, you may believe in whatever you like, but making an Ancient hero from the old myths into something that equals the notion of Greek in the modern sense of the word is in fact myth making on your part.

                      The gods and heroes from the old myths were shared by all peoples living in the Ancient world, they were not exclusive to the city states.
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                      • Daskalot
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4345

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
                        Agreed.

                        Refer to my signature for clarification.
                        But Sir your quote that you are using as a signature is only one side of all the various quotes from the time, there are many quotes stating the opposite, but for some fun, let me ask you about this quote of yours, who made the translation of the Ancient text in to modern English? Do you have the Ancient text?
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                        • Makedonia
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 76

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                          But Sir your quote that you are using as a signature is only one side of all the various quotes from the time, there are many quotes stating the opposite.
                          You are challenged by the quote?

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                          • Daskalot
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4345

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
                            You are challenged by the quote?
                            I am just pointing out that you are showing one side of the coin.
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                            • Makedonia
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 76

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                              I am just pointing out that you are showing one side of the coin.
                              Instead of pointing out what I am showing, may I suggest you show me your side of the coin, Sir.

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                              • Daskalot
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 4345

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
                                Instead of pointing out what I am showing, may I suggest you show me your side of the coin, Sir.
                                Que? Would you like to have a quote from the Ancient authors? Would you like to discuss the naming of the Macedonian cities or you would like to discuss something else??
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