Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue

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  • Truth Bearer
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    #46
    And again why would he have a Greek name anyway and not a Roman or Armenian one SoM?

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    • Soldier of Macedon
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      • Sep 2008
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      #47
      Originally posted by Truth Bearer View Post
      That's his Latin official title buddy.....About his birth place it's Sinope and he grew up in Cappadoccia and his father was part Armenian his mother was Greek and the only language he spoke was Greek.
      That it is, his Latin title. Does that make him ethnic Italian anymore than his name 'Heraclius' makes him an "ethnic Greek"? No.

      What is your evidence that he was born in Sinope? I eagerly await.

      What is your evidence that his mother was an "ethnic Greek"? I eagerly await.

      The person who instigated the re-introduction of the Greek language on an official level in the region grew up in AFRICA, get your facts right.
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • Soldier of Macedon
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        • Sep 2008
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        #48
        Originally posted by Truth Bearer View Post
        And again why would he have a Greek name anyway and not a Roman or Armenian one SoM?
        Oh please, is that all you have? Heraclius was and still is ( although rarely these days) used as a Christian name in the East Christian world. Look no further than your past president if you want to play silly games with the names of people, Constantine Karamanlis, a Latin first name and a Turkish second name, another pillar of "Hellenism" in name I take it.
        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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        • Truth Bearer
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          #49
          Heaclius is not a Christian name there has never been a St Heraclius.

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          • Truth Bearer
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            #50
            Heraclius is a Greek name meaning son of Hercules....So pls lets not get into all sorts of drivel.Why would a non Greek name himslef after Hercules a Greek Hero?Why didn't othe past Roman Emprerors name themselves as such?The last Latin Empreror was Justinian and he was born in the geographical region of Macedonia.After him all Byzantine Emprerors had Greek names.

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            • Soldier of Macedon
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              • Sep 2008
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              #51
              Really, Constantine (Pyrphyrogenitus) has a Greek first name? Stop manipulating facts. Many non-Greek and non-Latin peoples of the era adopted names of Latin and Greek origin, your theory doesn't hold, simple.

              There are reasons other than 'ethnicity' as to why this occured, and this has been explained to you already so stop going in circles.

              If Heraclius comes from Heracles and means 'son of Heracles', it is still derived from a Christian viewpoint and not an "ethnic Greek" viewpoint.

              Care to address any of the other revealed lies you stated above which I asked of you in regards to the African Armenoid who re-introduced the Greek language?
              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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              • Truth Bearer
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                #52
                You are corrct in that he made the Greek language the official langaue since the majority of the populace in the Empire spoke Greek.Latin remained the language of law and titles the rest was all Greek by public demand my friend.

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                • Truth Bearer
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                  #53
                  Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos or Porphyrogenitus, "the Purple-born" part of the Macedonian Dynasty....

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                  • Truth Bearer
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                    • Sep 2008
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                    #54
                    And why wasn't he Greek are you referring to the Armenian connection of the dynasty?
                    Funny how you claim Heraclius and the Macedonian dynasty as Armenians yet they all spoke Greek conducted themsleves in a Greek manner.Why would they do that?Why wasn't the Dynasty called the Armenian Dynasty instead it's called the Macedonian one?If Macerdonian wasn't Greek why would they name it Macedonian?

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                    • Truth Bearer
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                      #55
                      Also knowing how proud the Armenians are why would they adher to a foreign culture?Why also would they be allowed to become Emprerors when the split b/w the 2 churches happend around 600 A.D??

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                      • Truth Bearer
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                        • Sep 2008
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                        #56
                        Lets look what I also found a comment by the Purple one..

                        Constantine VII Poryphorgenitus:

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                        The Slavs of the province of Peloponnesus revolted in the days of the emperor Theophilus and his son Michael, and became independent, and plundered and enslaved and pillaged and burnt and stole. And in the reign of Michael, the son of Theophilus, the protospatharius Theoctistus, surnamed Bryennius, was sent as military governor to the province of Peloponnesus with a great power and force, vis., of Thracians and Macedonians and the rest of the western provinces, to war upon and subdue them."

                        De Administrando Imperial, Constantine Porphyrogenitus, 50

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                        • Truth Bearer
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                          #57
                          Constantine VII was renowned for his abilities as a writer and scholar. He wrote, or had commissioned, the works De cerimoniis aulae byzantinae ("On Ceremonies"), describing the kinds of court ceremonies also described later in a more negative light by Liutprand of Cremona; De Administrando Imperio ("On the Administration of the Empire"), giving advice on running the empire internally and also how to fight external enemies; and a history of the Empire covering events following the death of the chronographer Theophanes the Confessor in 817. Amongst his historical works was a history eulogising the reign and achievements of his grandfather, Basil I. These books are insightful and are of immense interest to the historian, sociologist and anthropologist as a most useful source of information about nations neighbouring with Byzantium. They also offer a fine insight into the Emperor himself.

                          Mind you all his works were written in Greek not in Latin nor Armenian........

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                          • Daskalot
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                            • Sep 2008
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Truth Bearer View Post
                            You are corrct in that he made the Greek language the official langaue since the majority of the populace in the Empire spoke Greek.Latin remained the language of law and titles the rest was all Greek by public demand my friend.
                            The language was NOT CALLED GREEK, THEY THEMSELVES CALLED IT ROMEIKA(ROMAN), so please do not use a modern term and try to transfer it into th past to claim the past in that way.
                            Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                            • Daskalot
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Truth Bearer View Post
                              Constantine VII was renowned for his abilities as a writer and scholar. He wrote, or had commissioned, the works De cerimoniis aulae byzantinae ("On Ceremonies"), describing the kinds of court ceremonies also described later in a more negative light by Liutprand of Cremona; De Administrando Imperio ("On the Administration of the Empire"), giving advice on running the empire internally and also how to fight external enemies; and a history of the Empire covering events following the death of the chronographer Theophanes the Confessor in 817. Amongst his historical works was a history eulogising the reign and achievements of his grandfather, Basil I. These books are insightful and are of immense interest to the historian, sociologist and anthropologist as a most useful source of information about nations neighbouring with Byzantium. They also offer a fine insight into the Emperor himself.

                              Mind you all his works were written in Greek not in Latin nor Armenian........
                              His works were written in ROMEIKA(ROMAN)
                              Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                              • Truth Bearer
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                                #60
                                That is incorrect Daskalot there is no such written language called "Romeika"......

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