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  • Dimko-piperkata
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1876

    #31
    Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
    I don't have 45 minutes to waste George. I wasted 8 minutes on the other video I posted of him. And if you watch that you can see a drunk making some pretty wild claims. With claims like these him and Iljov would be considered for nobel prizes if the rest of the world would just believe them
    hey TM..please show a bit more respect, this tashko belchev is ill and therefor he speaks like he do.

    i have offered som some time ago to meet with them (tashko and vasil) i offer this to u too...tell me when u r in macedonia and i will arrange a meet.

    i know that u and som are very smart macedonians, but imho, in comparison with their knowlegde u2 are lightyears behind.
    1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
    2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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    • Dimko-piperkata
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1876

      #32
      Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
      George, are you telling us that Macedonian cavemen knew very well that they were Macedonians? C'mon George this is just as bad as Iljov's 70,000 year old Macedonian script.
      oh really TM ? is that really so absurd ?

      what is with the scientist on historychannel, have u watched the series "anciet aliens" ?
      hey, i mean it is the historychannel...

      @ll the sceptics here
      you should finally begin to accept the impossible...you are still trying to "educate" u with THEIR propaganda stuff....
      1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
      2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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      • Commander Bond
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 72

        #34
        Originally posted by George S. View Post
        CB it's about time they answered some of the questions of doubt people have not simply plaster uncooberated material.This sort of thing makes us a laughing stock of the scientific community.It really doesn't help our cause.They ought to know that flimsy & whimsy things that don't stand up to the rigours of testing will not be accepted.CB i think DP might have a few of their emails & maybe if he likes he can invite tasko to explain himself more clearly so that we can understand him.
        You are spot on George.
        My suggestion is that the MTO invite these specialists to write up a piece (or more) exclusively for this web site whilst backing their claims in what they have put forward.

        Let these people have a say, perhaps they can teach us something we may have missed or they may even open our minds to a different path. Either way, we should not shoot them down, irrespective of whether they back their finding or not.
        Last edited by Commander Bond; 09-18-2011, 06:29 PM.

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          #35
          CB if they are properly invited at the mto i'm sure that something positive will come out.I'm sure they will also benefit by knowing how we feel in the diaspora.Also they would be happy probably to explain,espouse something they are currently working on.I'm sure the discussions could lead to important refernce points to certain information on the subject at hand.
          Last edited by George S.; 09-18-2011, 06:55 PM. Reason: ed
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • TrueMacedonian
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3810

            #36
            Originally posted by Dimko-piperkata View Post
            oh really TM ? is that really so absurd ?

            what is with the scientist on historychannel, have u watched the series "anciet aliens" ?
            hey, i mean it is the historychannel...

            @ll the sceptics here
            you should finally begin to accept the impossible...you are still trying to "educate" u with THEIR propaganda stuff....
            Dimko I unfortunately have watched ancient aliens. Watching a greek guy with an orange tan and Don King like hair as well as a Swiss guy who has no educational background in archaeology sputter on about unproven claims dealing with aliens is not convincing. It's insulting to peoples intelligence.
            Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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            • Dimko-piperkata
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1876

              #37
              Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
              Dimko I unfortunately have watched ancient aliens. Watching a greek guy with an orange tan and Don King like hair as well as a Swiss guy who has no educational background in archaeology sputter on about unproven claims dealing with aliens is not convincing. It's insulting to peoples intelligence.
              ahh ok, u dont accept opinions from uneducated....but tashko belchev has a prof and dr. title
              1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
              2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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              • cultea
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 126

                #38
                Originally posted by Dimko-piperkata View Post
                ahh ok, u dont accept opinions from uneducated....but tashko belchev has a prof and dr. title
                http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%...87%D0%B5%D0%B2

                He has never published anything in English, he has zero presence in any international scientific journal or conference and as long as he keeps it this way, he’s safe.
                These were the old ways of Balkan academic life (a Full Professor with a total of... 1 citation, wow). Things hopefully changed in the 90s or 00s.

                Still, I’ve no idea of his claims, especially the interesting and original ones. Any short outline would be appreciated.
                Last edited by cultea; 09-19-2011, 03:38 AM.

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #39
                  the problem is people are not willing to give the guy a go.He is a professor he must know his thing.There was a video & no body wishes to see it.Why because they seen one & tarnish the rest with the same brush.It could also mean jealousy because he is macedonian.Maybe they want an outsider to tell them the truth.Because that's all they'll beleive.
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    #41
                    DP why doesn't TM like he's a myth buster read up on these things & really find out what they are saying ,we would all like to know.Are they basing stuff on hairy fairy stuff or is it just madeup or is it actual archaelogical evidence.The fact is we all want to know the whole story not just evidence that might rubbish some finding.It's like throwing the baby with the bathwater.These are our own people we are ignoring & there is a wealth of discovery & knowledge about macedonians.Not what our neighbours want to write about us.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Mygdon
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 90

                      #42
                      i don't have to listen to this "professor" in order to know that we can't be bulgars....

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                      • TrueMacedonian
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3810

                        #43
                        Originally posted by George S. View Post
                        DP why doesn't TM like he's a myth buster read up on these things & really find out what they are saying ,we would all like to know.Are they basing stuff on hairy fairy stuff or is it just madeup or is it actual archaelogical evidence.The fact is we all want to know the whole story not just evidence that might rubbish some finding.It's like throwing the baby with the bathwater.These are our own people we are ignoring & there is a wealth of discovery & knowledge about macedonians.Not what our neighbours want to write about us.
                        George, I don't know what you expect of me. Belchev and Iljov and the rest of their like are not taken seriously for a reason. If their "discoveries" were indeed real I am positive the academic world would consider these Macedonian scholars to be trustworthy in practice and would indeed offer them space in peer reviewed journals. Unfortunately Macedonian scholarship is only looking to outdo the myths of Macedonia's neighbors by pushing the Macedonian past back to the stone age. I am perplexed by your insistence on giving these chumps a chance George. Should Macedonians leave reason at the doorstep and just accept any ludicrous theory? 70,000 year old writing. Ancient Hellenes stole Ancient Macedonian words. Need I continue or should we allow extraterrestrials to invade our history books to further pollute our youths minds and give the rest of the world another chuckle at Macedonia?
                        Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          #44
                          OK TM point taken.They are like a lost cause & they are only able to redeem themselves if ever.
                          70,000 year old writing why not? there were time machines & tito wrote it didn't you know TM.I think unless the scientific circles accept them then virtually they have to prove they are right.At the moment the jury is out.It seems all far fetched in absence of hard evidence.I think that dp was right they are light years ahead of themselves they need to slow down & give us the proof.Thanks for the input TM.
                          We were hoping that someone could invite them on the forum & they could be interviewd & questioned about how they have come to those conclusions.
                          Last edited by George S.; 09-19-2011, 04:27 PM. Reason: ed
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13670

                            #45
                            Originally posted by Commander Bond
                            Which reputable and capable historian/ethnologist/etymologist would you recommend to assist with the Macedonian cause?
                            None that have accurately told our story in its entirety. Hopefully some in the near future.
                            Let these people have a say, perhaps they can teach us something we may have missed or they may even open our minds to a different path. Either way, we should not shoot them down, irrespective of whether they back their finding or not.
                            These people won't come to internet forums. And they have had their say, the internet is full of their ideas. There is a thread about Vasil Iljov on this forum, check that out and then let me know if you think there is anything there worth pursuing:

                            YouTube - VASIL ILJOV - ancient Macedonian inscriptions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L45fHRSdJjw&feature=related) YouTube - VASIL ILJOV - 9000years old MACEDONIAN STAMP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuERDcTok94&feature=related) YouTube - VASIL ILJOV - HERODOT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O3laGASQcY&f

                            Originally posted by Dimko
                            i know that u and som are very smart macedonians, but imho, in comparison with their knowlegde u2 are lightyears behind.
                            I highly doubt the second part of that statement.
                            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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