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Old 02-23-2011, 07:11 PM   #5541
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UMD President Metodija A. Koloski did not pass on any Roadmap to any elected representatives in Australia. This Roadmap was drafted by UMD Australian Director Ordan Andreevski and his team of Australian-Macedonians, and endorsed by the majority of Australian Macedonian organizations, and supported by many Australian-Macedonian individuals. This Roadmap was also supported and endorsed by the Australian-Macedonian Parliamentary Friendship Group, consisting of Australian Federal Members of Parliament.
Endorsed by the majority of Austrlian Macedonian organsiations!? They haven't even heard of it! Who are these organisations that have supposedly agreed to it????

Where is a copy of this "Roadmap"???
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Vangelovski - how is it they haven't heard of it yet participated in a meeting in Canberra in September 2009, and February 2010 where it was discussed and presented? It was also in the Survey done by Victoria University, etc...
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Vangelovski - how is it they haven't heard of it yet participated in a meeting in Canberra in September 2009, and February 2010 where it was discussed and presented? It was also in the Survey done by Victoria University, etc...
Who are these orgnisations?? List them? Or are you LYING?

The survey only mentioned the roadmap, there was no copy attached for anyone to read it.
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Per our previous posting, please do not hesitate to contact Ordan Andreevski at [email protected] if you have any questions.

Thank you for your interest, and we look forward to hearing from you.
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Per our previous posting, please do not hesitate to contact Ordan Andreevski at [email protected] if you have any questions.

Thank you for your interest, and we look forward to hearing from you.
ANOTHER BIG UMD LIE!

Not only is it illegitimately attempting to represent Australian Macedonians to our elected Australian politicians, but it is now LYING about having the support of the "majority" of Australian Macedonian organisations!
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No lie at all, we stand by our word, that the Roadmap was supported by the majority of Australian Macedonian organizations. The roadmap is a 12-point plan presented in Australia's Parliament on September 8th. Please see press release at http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/430/51/.

However, for more details you need to contact Ordan Andreevski at [email protected].
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No lie at all, we stand by our word, that the Roadmap was supported by the majority of Australian Macedonian organizations. The roadmap is a 12-point plan presented in Australia's Parliament on September 8th. Please see press release at http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/430/51/.

However, for more details you need to contact Ordan Andreevski at [email protected].
List the organisations that supported the roadmap or retract your LIE.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:36 PM   #5548
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More unsubstantiated HYPE.
How utterly painful.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:40 PM   #5549
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In all seriousness its getting quite out of control from the UMD, These statements have no substance and the replies by the UMD forum member (whoever it may be) are quite rude and obviously ill-informed

The road map was not formed with the blessing off all Macedonian organisations, nor was it formed by all UMD members in Australia at the time, UMDs new Perth chapter was not even formed back then so Im guessing the road map was formed by a Questionable ordan, who seems quite lost at times, and umd washington, so The question is still viable as to who does this represent, UMD obviously has a self belief of grandeur, when the majority In Australian are not represented by UMD australia and the political games played by UMD is questionable considering they have had viable opportunities to support the majority views on issues such as the recent Skopsko Kale incident they could have released a press statement to condemn the actions on ethnic provocations of a criminal minority group on a religious site inside the republic of Macedonia.

If such incidents are not UMD news worthy why should Australian Macedonians support your views on Australian Macedonian Policy making, So a long story short, UMD in general are good at organizing gala events and sucking up to jewish politicians. whats next a press release for the new Jewish memorial in Macedonia ?
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:56 PM   #5550
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It will be more of the same stand.She doesn't want to upset the vote. why because of the big melbourne Greek vote of 1 million greeks!

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