United Macedonia Diaspora

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Originally Posted by Mr Brandy

Again Tom - are you privy to some insider information you would like to share? Are you aware of a conversation between Nimetz and UMD?

It will come out sooner or later and if indeed the UMD were told things like a name change is a MUST by either Matty or Philco the shit will hit the fan because they're withholding information from members.

Do me a favor and lay off the juice in 2011.

[Mr Brandy]

Originally Posted by Makedonska_Kafana

It will come out sooner or later and if indeed the UMD were told things like a name change is a MUST by either Matty or Philco the shit will hit the fan because they're withholding information from members.

Do me a favor and lay off the juice in 2011.

Alex I think you're in the wrong place - this isn't the
Macedonian "Make shit up about UMD and hope something sticks" Forum

- I believe its called the Macedonian Truth Forum. Correct me if I am wrong but I think the founders of site intended to have this as a place that would aid in disseminating the truth about Macedonians as defined by the Macedonian Cause.

Instead you are concocting consipracy theories that have not one shread of evidence in fact - why don't you cut out the bullshit and stick to the truth.

[George S.]

mr brandy i hope you are laying off the juice for 2011.As for the umd they are fucked up organization who only cares about getting more Suckers(members) so it can raise money.One of the pretexts is raising money to stop the negotiating.MK is on the right track he is following up on the umd to come clean.So far they are doging questions.In other words there is a secret agenda here.

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by Mr Brandy

this isn't the Macedonian "Make shit up about UMD and hope something sticks" Forum

Neither is it the Macedonian "Free Advertisement and dodge questions" Forum. Do you agree?

Originally Posted by Mr Brandy

Instead you are concocting consipracy theories that have not one shread of evidence in fact - why don't you cut out the bullshit and stick to the truth.

Well many of what you call "Conspiracy theories" are also not being challenged (by UMD) with not one shread of evidence. They prefer to dodge.- Why don't they cut out the bullshit and stick to the truth.

By the way, I'm still waiting on this very important action by UMD.

Originally Posted by Bill77

To whom it may concern,

Regarding the letter from UMD sent to the Macedonian Government calling for an end to negotiations with greece.

Any response yet from Gruevski and co?

If No, why not and is the UMD going to follow up and insist on a response.

Or was this letter a half hearted attempt (thats if such letter was sent) in order to pacify the Macedonians that have UMD worked out?

[Vangelovski]

Originally Posted by Mr Brandy

Again Tom - are you privy to some insider information you would like to share? Are you aware of a conversation between Nimetz and UMD?

If you go to the UMD website, you will not only find a press release, but you will find photo's to go along with it.

You act like UMD's ignorent stooges that Meto sends out in his own defence and who have no idea what they are on about. You should research who you are defending before you call what YOU imagine are bluffs.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Brandoff, the problem is not just with me it's what the majority of Macedonians are saying so it's not me that must be held accountable but the group you belong to! New Years Cruise photo's?

Better off donating to the Sick Kids Hospital in Toronto but one could easily argue that i vie dece ste dosta bolni - samo za pari i nisto drugo

- we raised $30,000 in 2 weeks

Not much when you have a few millionaires? When you raise $500,000 then post that information.

[Mr Brandy]

Originally Posted by Vangelovski

If you go to the UMD website, you will not only find a press release, but you will find photo's to go along with it.

You act like UMD's ignorent stooges that Meto sends out in his own defence and who have no idea what they are on about. You should research who you are defending before you call what YOU imagine are bluffs.

Oh yes - you must be referring to the meeting that happened almost 2 years ago - my comment was related to your statement

"Becaue UMD tells him they represent 500,000 Macedonian Americans."

How do you know what was said in that meeting much less the above statement?

[Mr Brandy]

Originally Posted by Makedonska_Kafana

Brandoff, the problem is not just with me it's what the majority of Macedonians are saying so it's not me that must be held accountable but the group you belong to! New Years Cruise photo's?

Better off donating to the Sick Kids Hospital in Toronto but one could easily argue that i vie dece ste dosta bolni - samo za pari i nisto drugo

- we raised $30,000 in 2 weeks

Not much when you have a few millionaires? When you raise $500,000 then post that information.

Majority? Really! Do you have one shread of factual evidence to back up that statement? Have you conducted a telephone poll? Or are you basing your opinion on "gut instinct"?

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Mr Brandy

How do you know what was said in that meeting much less the above statement?

Are you suggesting the UMD would have been truthful and transparent about their membership numbers? Do you think speaking on behalf of 300 members would have made quite the same impact? Remember the good old days when the UMD used to say on forums that they speak only on behalf of their members? I always disagreed because it continues to pretend it represents the entire Macedonian Diaspora .... much less the 500,00 Macedonians in USA.

Originally Posted by Mr Brandy

Have you conducted a telephone poll? Or are you basing your opinion on "gut instinct"?

Has UMD done a telephone poll? What gave Meto the idea that the Diaspora was for changing the name of Macedonia to get into EU/NATO? As recently as a few weeks ago he gave a big thumbs up to an article that suggested Macedonia needs to get more reasonable about these issues pertaining to our identity. Yet my gut instinct tells me that Macedonia is yet to assert its identity enough. Gut instinct can be a good thing if it is in tune with what the Diaspora wants.

[George S.]

2011 we are still waiting for the umd to do something regarding representing macedonian intersts.But it seems to be their own & simply referring us to yheir wemsite & avoiding hard questioning.We all have a gut instinct that nothing will come out of the umd.