United Macedonia Diaspora

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Currency Trader

What is there to thank for Risto. Its a reasonable conclusion that UMD choose to exclude others partly because of its own presence, its own work being done, and less risk for competition. In the end, what matters is how the survey is being received and how accurate the data will be for its intended purpose.

But c'mon CT ... surely you understand the contradiction of your two sentences above. I will say it for the 100th time. The data will not be accurate because the survey chose "to exclude others partly because of its own presence, its own work being done, and less risk for competition" using your own words.

I look forward to you continuing to be surprised with this assessment.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Currency Trader

The point is, whichever organised structure, be it governments or NGO's etc, there will be decisions made not representing 100% of the membership/non-members.

Ok, but what is the "normal Macedonian belief system"? I have never heard of this system before. You talked about this, can you expand. Besides whatever someone has advocated or not.

Well done for being so objective.
You are right, 100% of UMD's members are probably not even sure what UMD stands for much less agree with it. I tried to ask them publicly but the answer was underwhelming.

I am positive the Macedonian belief system is thoroughly aligned with the Macedonian Cause as defined in this forum. Fundamental to the cause is an opposition to changing anything about our identity, especially our name.

Here read it:
http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1303

Let me know what exactly you disagree with. Make sure you do.

[julie]

This survey should have been done in collaboration with all the AUSTRALIAN Macedonian communities, not with an organization based in US

[Currency Trader]

Originally Posted by julie

CT The point is that members or non-members opinions, expectations or wishes, may not always be in-line with the work or decisions made by organisations at certain point in time. Given this reality, one should be able to judge each action taken by an organisation separately. That means some decisions may be criticized from the membership/non-members without being labeled as "contradicting characters".


1. Do you support name negotiations?
I dont.
Macedonia, period

2. Do you support acronyms for entry to EU and NATO
I dont


I don't like my people used as canon fodder for yankee doodle

Nor is it in Macedonia's interests to enter the EU, countries that have gained entry into the big boys club are now faced with crippling debt to pay out Greece. That is disgusting

1. For some time, I did support diplomacy, but not at the expense of the nationality, identity and language. However, diplomacy must be constructive, realistic and cannot go on forever. Thus, its long overdue to drop these discussions and focus on Macedonian human rights aspects, thereof my support for AMHRC campaign.

2. I support entry into EU & NATO without pre-conditions.

Those that gained entry and are now faced with crippling debt, have only themselves to blame for poor budgeting and fiscal & structural discipline. However, EU itself does have structural and enforcement problems they are now trying to shore up.



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[Currency Trader]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

But c'mon CT ... surely you understand the contradiction of your two sentences above. I will say it for the 100th time. The data will not be accurate because the survey chose "to exclude others partly because of its own presence, its own work being done, and less risk for competition" using your own words.

I look forward to you continuing to be surprised with this assessment.

Which other questions on the survey do you consider to produce "inaccurate data", besides question 17 (where UMD excludes other organisations for the roadmap)?


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[Currency Trader]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Well done for being so objective.
You are right, 100% of UMD's members are probably not even sure what UMD stands for much less agree with it. I tried to ask them publicly but the answer was underwhelming.

I am positive the Macedonian belief system is thoroughly aligned with the Macedonian Cause as defined in this forum. Fundamental to the cause is an opposition to changing anything about our identity, especially our name.

Here read it:
http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1303

Let me know what exactly you disagree with. Make sure you do.

Let me get back to you on this one - its getting late here.

Rgrds

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Currency Trader

Which other questions on the survey do you consider to produce "inaccurate data", besides question 17 (where UMD excludes other organisations for the roadmap)?

I have already stated the other questions were not offensive and that is why I bothered to complete the survey.

[UMDiaspora.org]

Originally Posted by julie

This survey should have been done in collaboration with all the AUSTRALIAN Macedonian communities, not with an organization based in US

UMD is a registered Australian organization as well. UMD is registered in Canada and the United States.

[makedonche]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

UMD is a registered Australian organization as well. UMD is registered in Canada and the United States.

Does the UMD Australian Registered organisation represent the Australian Macedonian Diaspora?

[BigMak]

Originally Posted by UMDiaspora.org

UMD is a registered Australian organization as well. UMD is registered in Canada and the United States.

isnt umd registered as a Charity org in Australia?

How much members do you have in Australia?