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  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8531

    Julie,

    Did you read the full text of the letter? Particularly this senctence:

    Macedonia should be invited to join NATO now under the designation used in the 1999 Membership Action Plan.
    This proposed membership under the FYROM terminology. Something which I thought there was a consensus against on this forum.

    This is nothing more than UMD marketing American foreign policy - continued negotiations, continued use of FYROM and membership of organisations without demonstrating their benefit to the Macedonian people.
    Last edited by Vangelovski; 10-02-2010, 04:19 AM.
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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    • julie
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 3869

      Vangelovski, no I did not read that!
      under that revolting acronym, when are they going to stop perpetuating and acknowledging themselves as fyrom, I don't want any part of it
      "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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      • Vangelovski
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 8531

        Nothings changed either at the State Department or UMD HQ.
        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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        • UMDiaspora.org
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 525

          Fyrom?

          Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
          Julie,

          Did you read the full text of the letter? Particularly this senctence:

          This proposed membership under the FYROM terminology. Something which I thought there was a consensus against on this forum.

          This is nothing more than UMD marketing American foreign policy - continued negotiations, continued use of FYROM and membership of organisations without demonstrating their benefit to the Macedonian people.
          The letter does not say FYROM once...Macedonia NEVER STARTED THEIR MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLAN AS FYROM!

          FYROM is repulsive! And no Macedonian should ever even say the acronym!
          For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

          United Macedonian Diaspora
          http://www.umdiaspora.org

          1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
          Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

          PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
          Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

          3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
          Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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          • julie
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 3869

            Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
            The letter does not say FYROM once...Macedonia NEVER STARTED THEIR MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLAN AS FYROM!

            FYROM is repulsive! And no Macedonian should ever even say the acronym!
            Why does RoM not declare the interim accord null and void?
            Following on from this, there would be no negotiations for our name. Macedonia, period.
            Greece is hardly in a position to continue with their vetos and threats.
            Its time Macedonia stood up with courage and declare it null and void, it was put in place as an interim measure in New York , of course, hence my dislike and mistrust of US when it comes to RoM, that and destabilising the region with the influx of the Albanians

            How can Macedonia be put under international law to trial for declaring something as simply null and void.
            We have already acquiesced to our flag, and given more rights to the Albanian minority than Macedonians in Greece will ever have.

            Why does the UMD not empower RoM and support RoM with the backing of the entire diaspora internationally for standing up for what is rightfully ours, our beautiful Macedonian name
            The more time that elapses, the worse it gets for RoM
            RoM is sending our Macedonian boys to Afghanistan under THAT revolting acronym to assist NATO, and has been doing so for many years.
            UMD, the diaspora do not want this accord in place, nor do we want our name chnaged, nor do we want any further partitioning of what is left of our mother country. We want basic human rights for all of our fellow brothers and sisters , not just RoM, but in Pirinska Makedonia, Egejska Makedonia and Mala Prespa.

            Lets just declare the whole thing null and void, we have 129 countries that recognise the Republic of Macedonia as Macedonia.
            We have strong allies in Turkey and Greece cannot do jack shit, any embargoes and blockades they would enforce on RoM will only backfire on them more, especially how they trade with RoM anyway, Greece economy is in dire straits and they are in a financial mess.
            Macedonia will not prosper econmically under the EU, it would be retrograde for them, the lifestyle for the people would be so much harder, especially when how IRONIC they would need to pay Greece debt.
            My question to the UMD, the benefit for RoM, to declare it mull and void , why does UMD not converse with RoM and make a stance the diaspora will not allow any further erosions to our identity. The situation is out of hand, the Albanians will yet again rig the census, what is to become of slobodnoto parche od masha mila zemja?
            "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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            • Rogi
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2343

              Meto, what are you playing at exactly?

              The NATO Membership Action Plan for Macedonia was started in 1999 and under the name 'The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia'.

              Do you find "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" to be any more acceptable than "FYROM"? Seriously, are you now lobbying for Macedonia to be referred to as "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" and not "FYROM", as opposed to be lobbying for Macedonia to be referred to as Macedonia?

              I mean really, that misses the entire point now doesn't it?

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
                The letter does not say FYROM once...Macedonia NEVER STARTED THEIR MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLAN AS FYROM!
                Meto, are you lying, again? What name are your friends from congress insisting that Macedonia join NATO by? Pathetic.

                All Macedonians reading this that are unfortunate members of this compromised organisation that call themselves the "UMD", how much more do you need to see as evidence that you are being duped by these jokers?
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • Soldier of Macedon
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13670

                  Meto, are you running away from your own stupidity again?
                  In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                  • UMDiaspora.org
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 525

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                    Here is the link for Boston: http://www.bloomspot.com/circles/uni...aspora-boston/
                    Here is the link for Washington, D.C.: http://www.bloomspot.com/circles/uni...n-diaspora-dc/
                    For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                    United Macedonian Diaspora
                    http://www.umdiaspora.org

                    1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                    Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                    PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                    Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                    3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                    Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                    • Soldier of Macedon
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 13670

                      Are you going to address your recent statement (read lies), or are you going to keep pretending like you never said it? You're a tool, Meto, ill-informed about Macedonia and completely immature in Macedonian politics. You're like a school kid who thinks that closing his eyes will make his mistakes go away. Guess what, they won't, you don't need us to make you look bad, there is more than enough on this forum which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a liar who isn't worthy of Macedonian respect. When was that next 'high roller' over-priced boat cruise again which you claim to be on behalf of the Macedonian cause?
                      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                      • UMDiaspora.org
                        Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 525

                        Here we go again. :-) We have nothing better to do than sit on forums and Attack Attack Attack!

                        SoM - will you join the boat cruise?

                        While people like you sit on forums and attack people, UMD continues to work to help the Macedonian cause. Get off your chair and go get Australia to recognize Macedonia...this would be more worthy of your time. We don't see you announcing members of Parliament in Australia calling for recognition of Macedonia.
                        For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                        United Macedonian Diaspora
                        http://www.umdiaspora.org

                        1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                        Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                        PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                        Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                        3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                        Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                        • Soldier of Macedon
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13670

                          Look here you little worm, you are worth nothing but the perpetual requests for clarity due to your compulsive lies and stupidity. We have been prudent, but at this point we have had enough of it. It isn't a matter of "here we go again", it is a matter of you being a liar who is ill-informed and unable to back up his own statements. I ti kje mi se pederchish kako nekoj pratenik of diasporata! Aj brishi od tuka i pikni si ja glata ushte po dlaboko vo gazo na toj sho ti e mati vodata deneska.

                          What did your pathetic tour in Australia achieve? I thought you were going to show us how its done? All of your resources, all of the money spent, for what? Sho napraje be tikvo? Don't bother coming again, whatever lies Ordan sold to you about some apparent support in Australia was obviously false. Let me know if you need another reminder of it. You people are a circus here, a joke that isn't regarded by anybody other than a handful of so-called favour friends.
                          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                          • UMDiaspora.org
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 525

                            SoM - that was a funny post. Thanks for the laugh.
                            For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                            United Macedonian Diaspora
                            http://www.umdiaspora.org

                            1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                            Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                            PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                            Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                            3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                            Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              Exactly, you achieved jack shit in Australia, and you left, tail between your legs after all of your pathetic chest-pumping, lol.

                              And of course you would laugh, and continue to lie, one cannot expect more from a 'fyrom'-supporting worm like yourself.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • UMDiaspora.org
                                Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 525

                                What is fyrom?

                                What did you achieve in Australia?
                                For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                                United Macedonian Diaspora
                                http://www.umdiaspora.org

                                1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                                Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                                PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                                Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                                3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                                Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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