Ion Dragoumis recognizes the Macedonian language in 1907!

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  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    Ion Dragoumis recognizes the Macedonian language in 1907!



    Source: Ίων Δραγούμης, «Μαρτύρων και ηρώων αίμα», εκδ. Μαλλιάρης-Παιδεία (φωτογραφική ανατύπωση της α' εκδ. 1907), page 98.

    Above is noted the MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE and the MACEDONIANS.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation
  • makedonin
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1668

    #2
    Good find as always, Daskalot.

    We should post Dora this one, to remind her not to listen to the bull of the Tatars they now so highly praise
    To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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    • Daskalot
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 4345

      #3
      Originally posted by makedonin View Post
      Good find as always, Daskalot.

      We should post Dora this one, to remind her not to listen to the bull of the Tatars they now so highly praise
      Thank you, it was Pelister and Tsutsul Pase Goveda, that helped me find it. And there are more gems in this book.
      Macedonian Truth Organisation

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      • Daskalot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 4345

        #4
        Here is a translation of the above text into English:
        -You cannot own every town/city that is inhabited by Greeks. If so Massalia would be yours, as well as Edessa
        -The same observation more or less I make of you.
        You want to make the area of Monastiri yours, because there are towns there where Macedonian* is spoken, which you call Bulgarian.
        - Many towns! All the towns in the area speak Bulgarian!

        Do they wish to be Greeks or not?
        And since they do want(to be Greek), Im not sure if language is enough proof of a peoples ethnicity.
        First off, the language in question is not spoken by all, but only some Macedonian villagers. Those who speak it, do so only in their houses not in public(agora), where they speak Greek. And finally, this language is not Bulgarian, but a mix of slavic and Greek. It is not Bulgarian, Bulgarian does not exist even in Bulgaria. The cities of Macedonia are clearly Greek, the people of the area are Greek, the history of the area is Greek, and the actual land(earth/dirt) is Greek.

        - I can not understand, and I never will, this idea that you have that the Macedonians lost their language and picked up Bulgarian.
        -I can not see how the Bulgarians who are Ouvo(?)-Tartars lost their language and took...

        *the exact translation from Greek is Macedonian language
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        • Daskalot
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4345

          #5
          Ion Dragoumis is equating Church affiliation into nationality.

          What are your thoughts?
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          • Sarafot
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 616

            #6
            I want more of translation? Please?
            Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
            - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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            • TrueMacedonian
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3810

              #7
              Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
              Ion Dragoumis is equating Church affiliation into nationality.

              What are your thoughts?
              Of course he would. His family are originally Albanians so he would have to go along with Rigas the fat Vlachs sentiments in order to keep the illusion working.
              Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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              • Pelister
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2742

                #8
                Daskalot,

                Thanks for posting this. It is very important. I will buy the book, even though it is in Greek. I think I might have to learn how to read Greek.

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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15658

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pelister View Post
                  I think I might have to learn how to read Greek.
                  Don't do it.
                  You will become Greek overnight!
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • Pelister
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2742

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                    Don't do it.
                    You will become Greek overnight!
                    Haha. I have sometimes thought what it would be like to learn to speak Greek. Questions go through my mind like would I think any differently about them? Any differently about their history, their attitudes? I think I could only benefit from it in the end. I have often thought about studying Orthodox theology - there is an Orthodox School in Sydney, but I believe it is mostly in Greek.

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                    • Daskalot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4345

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pelister View Post
                      Daskalot,

                      Thanks for posting this. It is very important. I will buy the book, even though it is in Greek. I think I might have to learn how to read Greek.
                      Would you like to have a pdf-copy of it?
                      Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                      • Pelister
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2742

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                        Would you like to have a pdf-copy of it?
                        How many pages is it? What did you have in mind? Is it possible for you to email the pdf version to me? I could then print it out.

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                        • Daskalot
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4345

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pelister View Post
                          How many pages is it? What did you have in mind? Is it possible for you to email the pdf version to me? I could then print it out.
                          It is about 160 pages, I will see to that you get a copy of it, you will have it within 12 hours.
                          Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13670

                            #14
                            Send me a copy too please!
                            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                            • Daskalot
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4345

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                              Send me a copy too please!
                              I will do so!
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