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Same, that's why I'm asking for their OFFICIAL remarks.
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If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams -
IS anyone going to the UMD meeting tommorrow in Sydney Ilinden Cultural Centre, Rockdale 12 Feb. at 6:30 p.m....?The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!Comment
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IS anyone from the group going to the UMD meeting tommorrow in Sydney Ilinden Cultural Centre, Rockdale 12 Feb. at 6:30 p.m....?The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!Comment
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Naa i cant make it to this oneМАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.Comment
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I might go and see what METO has to say...?
If anyone is going I'd love to meet up and have a drink.....or two...The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!Comment
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Hey Lion, you will probably need more than a drink or 2 after itOriginally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse DelchevComment
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Your probably right Julie...lolOriginally posted by julie View PostHey Lion, you will probably need more than a drink or 2 after it
But Maybe after the 3rd drink..I'll have the courage to stand up and ask him afew questions....lolThe Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!Comment
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careful, dont sit too close to the front when you do comrade, you may get pointed atOriginally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse DelchevComment
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I plan to go to Rockdale to see what the UMD are about.You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!
A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.Comment
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I can only offer my opinion, I am not privy to the exact details of their decision to endorse US-Macedonian cooperation. All I can tell you is what I know and that is what I have said already. I can allege that due to their proximity to the epicenter of US policy making that they may have a significantly higher pull with certain circles than we previously possessed, but again, this would be better discussed with UMD board members than left to speculation on our end.Originally posted by aleksandrov View Post
I have not seen the UMD claim that Macedonia should be subservient to US foreign policy, nor have I seen UMD claim that Macedonia should sell their sovereignty or identity to secure the aide of the US.
My original statement was that the average citizen of the Republic of Macedonia cares very little whether the United States recognizes us, and the decision of the United States to recognize Macedonia pre-referendum in 2004 played a very small role in the absence of voters, rather it was the government that used empty blackmail and scare tactics to push the citizens to subservience, had the citizens realized that the threats coming from the government were not conceivably or realistically possible there would have been a different outcome. This is proof of the mentality that the citizens possess."I'm happy to answer any question and I don't hide from that"
Never once say you walk upon your final way
though skies of steel obscure the blue of day.
Our long awaited hour will draw near
and our footsteps will thunder - We are Here!Comment
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I was impressed by Meto, but not convinced.
I think that we need an organization like or similar to UMD, and more polished and professional presenters like Meto. UMD has alot of potential to organize our resources and efforts. I can understand that it is raising our profile ...etc. Meto has some excellent qualities, but there is so much lacking too.
But it is UMD's soft stance on the critical issues facing all Macedonians that bothers me.
Since its inception UMD have defended and openly supported anti-Macedonian institutions, clubs and strucrures...etc.
It has not only stood behind various anti-Macedonian "processes" still in operation, but DEFENDED them.
This is not the time to be advancing our interests by acquising or capitualting to Western demands, institutions and structures, or Western rhetoric. UMD has to find some principles if it is able to and reconicle its greed for the growth of its organization and those principles, or it is just a whore of the West.
There is no moral, historical or legal justification for negotiating or changing our name.Comment
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Isn't a defence of the negotiations under the current conditions, a defence of the Interim Accord, of our admission to the E.U and NATO under the current conditions - evidence in its own right of UMD supporting at a bare minimum certain Western processes and structures that are fundamentally anti-Macedonian?I have not seen the UMD claim that Macedonia should be subservient to US foreign policy, nor have I seen UMD claim that Macedonia should sell their sovereignty or identity to secure the aide of the US.Last edited by Pelister; 02-11-2010, 09:10 PM.Comment
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No it is not."No, it is not the critic who counts. Not the one who points out how a strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and may come up short, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails daring greatly." - Theodore RooseveltComment
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Pelister
UMD HAS NEVER supported a name change, as you can see in many press releases and our resolution from the global conference.
Once again NO NAME CHANGE.Last edited by amitreski; 03-30-2010, 07:45 AM."No, it is not the critic who counts. Not the one who points out how a strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and may come up short, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails daring greatly." - Theodore RooseveltComment
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What anti-Macedonian institutions? NATO and EU? The same institutions that are supported by the Macedonians in The Republic of Macedonia by 90%?Originally posted by Pelister View Post"No, it is not the critic who counts. Not the one who points out how a strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and may come up short, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails daring greatly." - Theodore RooseveltComment
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