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makedonin 02-17-2011 07:36 AM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;89662]I'm not sure what you're trying to say here?
[/QUOTE]

Try harder.... If not maybe you will understand it in Klingon tongue.... who knows, everything is possible...

Jankovska 02-17-2011 07:39 AM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;89666]I accept the Bible, hence I respect it. Does that mean you accept treason?

[B]There are a few more questions there J.[/B]

Considering I was 16 at the time of your glorious VENTILATOR, my options for resistance were limited. However, as you can see, I am actively attempting to show people that the VENTILATOR is TREASON and that we need to RESIST it and never legitimise it. Nothing will ever change if we "respect" oppression and treason.

I also hope people read my posts and think carefully about them.[/QUOTE]


I don't accept the Bible but I respect it.

I do hope people read you and see you for what you really are!!

Vangelovski 02-17-2011 07:40 AM

[quote=makedonin;89667]Try harder.... If not maybe you will understand it in Klingon tongue.... who knows, everything is possible...[/quote]

So..."Македонија'...how's that going?

Vangelovski 02-17-2011 07:40 AM

[quote=Jankovska;89668]I don't accept the Bible but I respect it.

I do hope people read you and see you for what you really are!![/quote]

So basically you want us to "respect" treason but you can't tell us HOW or WHY? Maybe an easier question - WHY "respect" the VENTILATOR and not "FYROM"? They come from the same place.

I'll give you a clue - you can't respect something you don't believe in.

makedonin 02-17-2011 08:02 AM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;89669]So..."Македонија'...how's that going?[/QUOTE]

Ain't we good in dodging Philotas? How's that going for you?

Serdarot 02-17-2011 10:48 AM

da pustevte po eden mail do nekoja Vlada , Ministerstvo ili Partija, namesto da serite na temava, ke napraevte mnogu pogolema rabota.

Ne mora da se upotrebuva oficijalnoto zname, dovolno beshe samo tekst.

Pishav deka ova ne e tema za znameto, imeto, ramkovniot, ama KURTONI od lugje uporno ja tupat temava.

Za onie koi ne znat Makedonski ili slabo znat Makedonski:

Send Email, and stop trolling.

If you keep on trolling on this topic, you are simply KODOSHI.

Bill77 02-17-2011 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Serdarot;89686]da pustevte po eden mail do nekoja Vlada , Ministerstvo ili Partija, namesto da serite na temava, ke napraevte mnogu pogolema rabota.

Ne mora da se upotrebuva oficijalnoto zname, dovolno beshe samo tekst.

Pishav deka ova ne e tema za znameto, imeto, ramkovniot, ama KURTONI od lugje uporno ja tupat temava.

Za onie koi ne znat Makedonski ili slabo znat Makedonski:

Send Email, and stop trolling.

If you keep on trolling on this topic, you are simply KODOSHI.[/QUOTE]Bravo Serdare :thumbup1:

Well said. What a great thread and initiative started by Eddie, only to be hijacked and destroyed. Who needs Greeks and Albanians to be thorns in our side when we have these so called Macedonians fucking things up.

Good luck to you guys. And i wish our nation all the success. Even though i now understand we never had a chance.

Vangelovski 02-17-2011 05:16 PM

[quote=Serdarot;89686]da pustevte po eden mail do nekoja Vlada , Ministerstvo ili Partija, namesto da serite na temava, ke napraevte mnogu pogolema rabota.

Ne mora da se upotrebuva oficijalnoto zname, dovolno beshe samo tekst.

Pishav deka ova ne e tema za znameto, imeto, ramkovniot, ama KURTONI od lugje uporno ja tupat temava.

Za onie koi ne znat Makedonski ili slabo znat Makedonski:

Send Email, and stop trolling.

If you keep on trolling on this topic, you are simply KODOSHI.[/quote]

Don't be such an amatuer - you think noone here has sent an email? We've sent thousands of emails, letters and are in constant contact with our Federal Members, among other government contacts in our own electorates.

Do you even know the political circumstances in Australia, how Governments and political parties work, who are the relevant and influential party members, who their key stakeholders, lobbyists and friends are? Do you have any detailed understanding of the Australian political system or the specific circumstances that the Macedonians face here?

Do you have any idea how long and hard we have struggled to put a sense of national pride into our people here only to have morons like yourself make idiotic attempts to justify national treason like the Interim Accord and the VENTILATOR that was born out of it?

Do you have any idea about anything at all?

Vangelovski 02-17-2011 05:23 PM

It appears that the same old forum members are pushing their agenda on here again, and that is accpetance and legitimisation of the Interim Accord. So far, they have demonstrated their acceptance of the VENTILATOR and Macedonia's renouncement of our FREELY CHOSEN symbol (highlighted in [COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR]). Lets scratch beneath the surface and see exactly what else they have accepted and will eventually push for:

[SIZE=3]Article 5: name negotiations[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[FONT=Verdana][FONT="]Article 6: Macedonia renouncing all claims to its ethnic/historic territory and agreeing NOT to pursue the rights of Macedonians not only in Greece but in ANY OTHER STATE[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3][FONT="][COLOR=red]Article 7: Not only renouncing the Sonce but any other symbols that Greece considers to be part of its historic or cultural heritage[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3][FONT="]Article 11: Macedonia agreeing to only enter international organisations under FYROM[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]

Risto the Great 02-17-2011 06:10 PM

I was one of the first people to show disrespect to Vangelovski many years ago due to his somewhat abrasive manner.

I was one of the first people to apologise to him due to his intellectual depth on Macedonian matters.

I suggest you question the content of his messages more than the manner in which he presents them.

The rest of you really should not comment about him until you can comment from a knowledgeable perspective about the articles mentioned immediately above this post.

The day I send an email to someone demanding rights for Macedonians using the ventilator symbol is the day I will be pointing at it and showing how that symbol was forced upon Macedonians in a manner that has no precedent.

Wake up Macedonians. We are weak, pitiful and slave-like for the exact reasons being displayed here.

Here is a point for the intellectual giants here, if Greece was forced to change its flag ... how many Greeks would accept that? Zero. But Macedonians want to respect this capitulation. Is it from complete dumbness or more to do with feeling inferior to the rest of the world, or is it more to do with being slaves with zero belief they can change their plight in their lives?


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