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Rogi 07-10-2010 10:10 AM

Eddie_Rebel,

Ima li nekade ista takva anketa, odnosno anketa so isto prasanje, so znachitelen broj anketirani, namesto istite 1,000 - 2,000?

Se razbira, postojat rezultati od vnatresnite anketi na glavnite politicki partii vo Republika Makedonija, kade brojot na anketirani e znachitelen, no tie rezultati ne se javni, taka da te prasuvam dali ima anketa od nekoja nevladinska organizacija ili mediumska kukja?

Eddie_rebel 07-10-2010 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=Rogi;63528]Eddie_Rebel,

Ima li nekade ista takva anketa, odnosno anketa so isto prasanje, so znachitelen broj anketirani, namesto istite 1,000 - 2,000?

Se razbira, postojat rezultati od vnatresnite anketi na glavnite politicki partii vo Republika Makedonija, kade brojot na anketirani e znachitelen, no tie rezultati ne se javni, taka da te prasuvam dali ima anketa od nekoja nevladinska organizacija ili mediumska kukja?[/QUOTE]

Таа од лани е со речиси 1500 шо мислам дека не е малку.

И анкетите што ги прават невладините не сум слушнал некоја да е со над 2000 анкетирани. Обично се малку над 1000.

[URL="http://www.crpm.org.mk/Papers/Surveys/Anketa_rezultati.pdf"]Еве подетални податоци за една анкета ама и таму се само 1100 анкетирани[/URL]

[URL="http://www.mia.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=125&vId=57168836&lId=1&title=%D0%95%D0%92%D0%A0%D0%9E-%D0%90%D0%A2%D0%9B%D0%90%D0%9D%D0%A1%D0%9A%D0%98+%D0%98%D0%9D%D0%A2%D0%95%D0%93%D0%A0%D0%90%D0%A6%D0%98%D0%98"]Еве друга со 1113 анкетирани[/URL]

Makedonetz 07-10-2010 12:28 PM

Ashton hopes to skorashno solution to name issue
 
Hope it will soon resolve the dispute over the name that will help our country to start negotiations with the EU in Greece yesterday expressed high representative for foreign and security policy Catherine Ashton

The meeting yesterday with Deputy Chief of the Greek diplomacy Dimitris Drucas expressed support for the dispute within the United Nations and stressed that stability in the Western Balkans is one of the priorities of the EU. Drucas said that Ashton had discussed the European perspective of the region and to the Greek agenda 2014th

[url]http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.novamakedonija.com.mk%2F&sl=auto&tl=en[/url]

vodenka 07-10-2010 12:51 PM

[QUOTE]IMO, it would be wise for people to FIRST inform themselves fully before presuming to know it all and spreading ignorance and fallacies at the expense of Macedonian dignity and integrity.
[/QUOTE]
Indigen, can you tell the difference between a State and a Nation?

Bratot 07-10-2010 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Rogi;63528]Eddie_Rebel,

Ima li nekade ista takva anketa, odnosno anketa so isto prasanje, so znachitelen broj anketirani, namesto istite 1,000 - 2,000?

Se razbira, postojat rezultati od vnatresnite anketi na glavnite politicki partii vo Republika Makedonija, kade brojot na anketirani e znachitelen, no tie rezultati ne se javni, taka da te prasuvam dali ima anketa od nekoja nevladinska organizacija ili mediumska kukja?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eddie_rebel;63530]Таа од лани е со речиси 1500 шо мислам дека не е малку.

И анкетите што ги прават невладините не сум слушнал некоја да е со над 2000 анкетирани. Обично се малку над 1000.

[URL="http://www.crpm.org.mk/Papers/Surveys/Anketa_rezultati.pdf"]Еве подетални податоци за една анкета ама и таму се само 1100 анкетирани[/URL]

[URL="http://www.mia.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=125&vId=57168836&lId=1&title=%D0%95%D0%92%D0%A0%D0%9E-%D0%90%D0%A2%D0%9B%D0%90%D0%9D%D0%A1%D0%9A%D0%98+%D0%98%D0%9D%D0%A2%D0%95%D0%93%D0%A0%D0%90%D0%A6%D0%98%D0%98"]Еве друга со 1113 анкетирани[/URL][/QUOTE]


Нема таква анкета Роги од прости причини, имено според статистичките стандарди еден репрезентативен примерок од најмалку 1000 анкетирани луѓе треба да ја прикаже состојбата веродостојно. Затоа и поголемиот број анкети се со временски рок и се затвараат во моментот кога бр. на анкетирани ќе надмине 1000.

Доколку интернет петициите се бројат тогаш оваа достигна бројка од 5.500

[url]http://forum.kajgana.com/showthread.php?40553-Граѓанско-движење-против-промена-на-името-на-Република-Македонија[/url]

[url]http://www.gopetition.com/online/28650/signatures-page3.html[/url]


Што беше под нашите очекувања со Еди и останатите кои ја промовираа.

Bratot 07-10-2010 01:39 PM

Имаше една прилично интересна од лани на Таратур.цом, имено гласеше:

Дали пак би гласале за ВМРО ДПМНЕ, доколку се согласи на ’северно име’

[b]НЕ - 62% (1315 гласови)[/b]

ДА- 24% (511 гласови)

ЗАВИСИ - 14% (285 гласови)


[b]Вкупно гласови: 2111[/b]

Risto the Great 07-10-2010 04:56 PM

It is extremely common for Diaspora groups to register discord with citizens of the mother country on matters pertaining to their homeland. The unfortunate aspect is that Macedonians in the Diaspora have to do it on fundamental matters such as the name of the country. If 25% or 49% of Macedonia's population are potentially convinced a new name could be ok, then Julie is closer to correct than many Macedonians care to admit.

We in the Diaspora should be arguing about how much foreign investment should be let in, or what kind of architecture should be employed in Tetovo. Not the name and identity of our people.

Frank 07-10-2010 08:07 PM

Sadly this is very likley a proposal our countrymen would agree too I don't doubt it.

Prolet 07-10-2010 08:12 PM

Frank, Here is something worth looking at, 75% of the people want to join the EU only as Macedonians. While 10% dont want to join all together.


[url]http://www.kanal5.com.mk/default.aspx?mId=37&egId=13&eventId=62615[/url]

indigen 07-10-2010 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=vodenka;63537]Indigen, can you tell the difference between a State and a Nation?[/QUOTE]

What has that got to do with the price of bread, i.e. the issue of your using inappropriate and demeaning terminology such as "constitutional name" and claiming that it was "chosen by a referendum" (which it certainly was NOT!)?

Vodenka, we (i.e. most regular MTO forum posters) have been over this topic for a long while now and even Prolet (after SOM set him straight [URL="http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=187&page=12"][COLOR="Navy"]here[/COLOR][/URL], as he would not listen to me) is PC about it. Macedonia has a State name only - MACEDONIA!

Please check the following specific thread out:
[URL="http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2858"][COLOR="Navy"]A Google search for terms "Constitutional name" only relates to Macedonia?[/COLOR][/URL]

If you feel we need to discuss it further, perhaps you can reactivate the specific thread above?

So pochit,
I.


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