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Niko777 01-24-2019 09:15 PM

Get ready for tomorrow when Greece passes the deal.
I'm predicting that most Macedonians will adopt a new narrative, they will declare tomorrow a victory and celebrate, and say Greece has finally recognized a Macedonian state, citizenship, language, and the doors of the EU will finally open, and the country will become into an utopia.

Carlin 01-24-2019 10:02 PM

[img]https://i.imgur.com/mG0hlIU.jpg[/img]

[url]http://www.ekathimerini.com/236951/sketch/ekathimerini/cartoon/cartoon[/url]

Prime Minister Zoran Zaev said that he doesn’t have any prejudices and believes in the perspectives after Prespa’s Agreement is ratified in both countries.

“I might be the first to change my passport with a new name Republic of North Macedonia. I was the first who said ‘Long live Republic of North Macedonia’. This is not easy for our people, but it gives hope and perspective”, said Prime Minister Zoran Zaev in interview for TV Alsat.

URL:
[url]https://nezavisen.mk/en/news/2019/01/122115/[/url]

VMRO 01-24-2019 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=Carlin15;178711]How?

Video:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp4tDPu9ZMI[/url][/QUOTE]

Because it is the flag of Kiro, Branko and Grchev.

When i see that flag i see a flag that symbolizes betrayal. It is a reminder of everything that went wrong in Macedonia due to the greedy, spineless politicians. Kamikaze mock up.

Phoenix 01-24-2019 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;178712]Get ready for tomorrow when Greece passes the deal.
I'm predicting that most Macedonians will adopt a new narrative, they will declare tomorrow a victory and celebrate, and say Greece has finally recognized a Macedonian state, citizenship, language, and the doors of the EU will finally open, and the country will become into an utopia.[/QUOTE]

...what's your prediction for the day after tomorrow...when the greeks make it perfectly clear that Northern Macedonia is a new state that has no historical roots, that it didn't recognise a Macedonian ethnicity nor a Macedonian language...and the greek veto for EU membership remains the trump card in the greek deck...

My prediction is that the Macedonians will not only continue to be poor but will have been stripped of their fundamental right to self determination, of their dignity and their soul, of everything that has ever made us proud...Macedonians will have been skinned alive and their skins traded for untold riches, utopia will definitely materialise to those that were connected to Zaev's organised crime syndicate and the calculated fleecing of an entire nation and its peoples.

Gocka 01-24-2019 11:11 PM

[QUOTE=VMRO;178715]Because it is the flag of Kiro, Branko and Grchev.

When i see that flag i see a flag that symbolizes betrayal. It is a reminder of everything that went wrong in Macedonia due to the greedy, spineless politicians. Kamikaze mock up.[/QUOTE]

It is the flag of the original Greek capitulation, the one that everyone seems to forget we already made for the very same reasons we made this one.

Maybe in 20 years when we make the next one they will also forget that we weren't always called North Macedonia, the same way they forgot that the ventilator wasn't always our flag either.

I still think the deal may end in a shock no vote by 1 vote.

VMRO 01-24-2019 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=Gocka;178717]It is the flag of the original Greek capitulation, the one that everyone seems to forget we already made for the very same reasons we made this one.

Maybe in 20 years when we make the next one they will also forget that we weren't always called North Macedonia, the same way they forgot that the ventilator wasn't always our flag either.

I still think the deal may end in a shock no vote by 1 vote.[/QUOTE]

Sadly many have amnesia or are just plain blind.

Many forget the not so distant past and the factors that brought us to what we see today.

Carlin 01-25-2019 02:38 AM

[B]Ципрас ги потсети грчките комунисти на славомакедонскиот буквар што го делеа во Ташкент[/B]

Грчкиот премиер Алексис Ципрас во синоќешниот говор за време на расправата во грчкиот парламент за Договорот од Преспа ги потсети пратениците на Комунистичката партија на Грција, кои нема да гласаат за договорот, на нивните заложби во минатото.

URL:
[url]https://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politika/cipras-gi-potseti-grchkite-komunisti-na-slavomakedonskiot-bukvar-shto-go-delea[/url]

Не сакам да ја критикувам КПГ врз основа на нејзината историја. Но, ќе го споменам славомакедонскиот буквар што членовите на КПГ го делеа во Ташкент на децата на славомакедонските борци на ДАГ. Ќе ги споменам и 70-те илјади бегалци од Граѓанската војна, на кои грчката држава им ја ускрати репатријацијата во 1983-та. Ќе ја споменам и славомакедонката Мирка Гинова комунист, која беше првата жртва на граѓанската војна во Грција. За ова ве оставам да си размислите самите со себе. За тие грижи што ги носите на совест, Ве оставам сами да се соочите, рече Ципрас.

Ретко кој грчки политичар вака отворено се осмели да зборува за ова болно прашање за Грција, за депортацијата на Македонците од северниот дел на Грција за време на Граѓанската војна во оваа земја.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/hXTijZs.jpg[/img]

vicsinad 01-25-2019 08:29 AM

Hello North Macedonia,

[URL="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47002865?ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_linkname=news_central&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social"]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47002865?ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_linkname=news_central&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social[/URL]

Risto the Great 01-25-2019 08:30 AM

Can't blame the Greeks.

Risto the Great 01-25-2019 08:35 AM

I am sickened by the pathetic Fyromians who allowed this to happen. That is the majority of that whore of a country I am talking about.


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