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Phoenix 01-15-2019 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=Tomche Makedonche;178528]Well it was a period where people tended to care about something more than just themselves, and oppression did seem to get people’s sense of priorities in order, as opposed to liberation, they really seem to struggle with that, they are rather completely lost in a liberated scenario.

Wait, did I just describe a kind of Stockholm syndrome?, just oppress us, at least we know what to do and how to act then.[/QUOTE]

I think the void of a morally powerful and charismatic leader during any period over the previous three decades has failed the potential success of a Macedonian state...instead, the highest offices in the land have routinely been filled by petty criminals and people of very dubious character...never better illustrated than the current crop of whores and their terrorist pimps that reside in that state brothel, that is wrongly referred to as the 'parliament'.

I'm a strong believer in people-power and its innate ability to make great things happen but only strong and trusted leadership can harness its potential.
The saying - "a fish rots from the head down" is just as applicable to a state as it is to any organisation, even the family unit is largely at the mercy of the same dynamics.

Sadly, for the sovereignty of the Macedonian state, history has somewhat conspired against it...at another crucial historical junction when we desperately required a Cento, we were handed a Zaev...and so the journey into oblivion is now complete.

Stojacanec 01-16-2019 07:38 AM

[QUOTE=Carlin15;178487]Greek Foreign Ministry issues strongly worded response to Moscow

URL:
[url]http://www.ekathimerini.com/236598/article/ekathimerini/news/greek-foreign-ministry-issues-strongly-worded-response-to-moscow[/url]



“It is clear that there is an ongoing process imposed from outside which is aimed at [B]changing the country’s name in an artificial way [/B]with the ultimate goal of forcefully inducting Skopje into NATO. This is taking place in [B]violation of Macedonian law[/B],” the ministry said, adding that President Gjorge Ivanov and the [B]majority of the country’s population were against the agreement[/B].

Moscow plans to refer the issue to the United Nations Security Council.[/QUOTE]

Why does it take Russian diplomats to portray the name changing process for what it is?

What is Ivanov doing about this except for making speeches and asking non rhetorical questions?

Stojacanec 01-16-2019 07:40 AM

[QUOTE=Pelagonija;178511][IMG]https://sitel.com.mk/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/article/teaser-images/2019/january/dvnc61ixcamqmpq-205969.jpg?itok=uI9bLysw[/IMG]

Стојанче Ангелов: Отсега ќе бидете Македонци кога ќе одите на грчките плажи, а не Скопјани

[url]https://sitel.com.mk/stojanche-angelov-otsega-kje-bidete-makedonci-koga-kje-odite-na-grchkite-plazhi-ne-skopjani[/url][/QUOTE]

Use your head Angelov, you probably won't feel a thing.

Niko777 01-16-2019 11:08 AM

There is a rumor that the Ecumenical Patriarch purposely named the new Ukrainian Church "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" rather than "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" so that it will follow the same format for the Macedonian Church when it's time to grant autocephaly: "Orthodox Church of North Macedonia".

Soldier of Macedon 01-16-2019 11:58 AM

Is that just talk or a rumour mentioned in the media?

Niko777 01-16-2019 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;178542]Is that just talk or a rumour mentioned in the media?[/QUOTE]

Just talk, based on something mentioned in the media by Arhimandrit Partenij.

[QUOTE] Here I would like to mention the last issue with the Church in Ukraine. This gives us hope that even regarding our Church he will fulfil his promise, thus healing one more serious wound on the body of Orthodoxy. Speaking of Ukraine, we should mention that it’s not by accident the Patriarch chose the name “Orthodox Church in Ukraine” instead of “Ukrainian Orthodox Church” which shows that he is fully determined to confront the heresy of ethnophyletism. We hope that all the Local Churches would learn from this and follow his example, because the Local autocephalous Church does not belong to just one nation, but rather to all the Orthodox faithful under its jurisdiction, regardless of the nationality. Unfortunately, we can’t help but see that the SOC stubbornly holds its position that it should have under control all the territories of the former Yugoslavian state, where it used to preach Serbian nationalism instead of Christianity, something which, according to the spiritual laws, would inevitably get back and explode in their face.[/QUOTE]

Carlin 01-16-2019 06:03 PM

Tsipras wins confidence vote.

Risto the Great 01-16-2019 06:34 PM

Hi North Macedonia

Gocka 01-16-2019 09:13 PM

So funny story.

Today I go to check on a job site and my Macedonian guys are listening to Macedonian radio. Just as I walk in I here this

"Hit concert, Zelko Samardzic, Boris Trajkoski Stadium. Transportation organized from everywhere in the country"

I lost it.

"Пту да ви се плукам во народот заебан. Немојте превос да организирате за протести, ама гла ке скршите за да одите на турбо фолк концерти.

ИСКЛУЧЕТЕ ГО РАДИОТО СМЕСТА ИЛИ КЕ ЛЕТНИТ НИЗ ПЕНЏЕРА!"

I kicked a bucket of drywall mud, muttered some curse words, and went to go eat something (I usually eat when I am pissed off).

That commercial ruined my day.

maco2envy 01-16-2019 09:39 PM

[QUOTE=Carlin15;178546]Tsipras wins confidence vote.[/QUOTE]

By one seat... Where have I seen this before?


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