[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44511649[/url]

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;174073]With any luck they will be greeted like this on their way back to the shores of Macedonian-controlled Lake Prespa:

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More likely this:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI8ldqKf_pU[/url]

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;174076]More likely this:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI8ldqKf_pU[/url][/QUOTE]

I'm not so sure. They've got rhythm.

[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44511649[/url]

[B]Macedonia name dispute: PMs watch as ministers sign 'historic' deal[/B]

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[QUOTE]Greece and Macedonia have signed a deal that aims to settle a decades-long dispute over Macedonia's name. Under the agreement, Greece's neighbour will be known as North Macedonia. Greek PM Alexis Tsipras said it was "a brave, historic and necessary step for our peoples". Heated rows over Macedonia's name have been going on since the break-up of the former Yugoslavia, of which it was a part, and have held up Macedonia's entry to Nato and the EU. Greece has long argued that by using the name Macedonia, its neighbour was implying it had a claim on the northern Greek province also called Macedonia.

The two countries' leaders announced the deal on Tuesday and have pressed ahead despite protests. Mr Tsipras and his Macedonian counterpart Zoran Zaev watched as their foreign ministers signed the deal on Lake Prespa on Greece's northern border on Sunday. The agreement still needs to be approved by both parliaments and by a referendum in Macedonia. Nationalists on both sides say it erodes their identity. On Saturday Mr Tsipras survived a no-confidence vote over the deal amid accusations he made too many concessions.

It looked like the setting for a wedding. A white marquee erected on the banks of a picturesque lake. And indeed, one of the participants was agreeing to change its name. After almost three decades of dispute, the northern neighbour of Greece should soon become North Macedonia. An elderly man in the audience nodded and smiled. This was Matthew Nimetz - the UN mediator who has spent a quarter of a century trying to find a solution acceptable to both countries. He called the prime and foreign ministers "four outstanding leaders" with "political courage, vision and diplomatic skills".

There is still some way to go before the name change becomes official. Macedonia's parliament first needs to back the deal. That would be followed by a referendum in September or October. If voters there support it, the government would have to change the constitution, which is a key Greek demand. Things have been complicated further as Macedonia's President Gjorge Ivanov is refusing to sign the agreement. He has the power to veto the deal - but not indefinitely. If he refuses to sign it, it will be sent back to parliament for a second vote. If it passes again, President Ivanov would then be obliged to approve the legislation. The deal will finally have to be ratified by the Greek parliament, a process which may also not be straightforward.[/QUOTE]
May Matthew Nimetz burn in hell alongside those Macedonian traitors.

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;174082][url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44511649[/url]

[B]Macedonia name dispute: PMs watch as ministers sign 'historic' deal[/B]

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May Matthew Nimetz burn in hell alongside those Macedonian traitors.[/QUOTE]

There's a part of me that thinks that they will receive their comeuppance, but the rest of me knows they will get away with this treason...

[QUOTE=kompir;174083]There's a part of me that thinks that they will receive their comeuppance, but the rest of me knows they will get away with this treason...[/QUOTE]

You would expect some sort of ramifications after this...I can't imagine it being business as usual from here on end...there has to be some consequence...whether now or in the future.

I think at some point, all concerned on both sides will pay at least a heavy political price (not that it would be a concern for the politicians on our side, they will take their money and run for the hills in Geneva or seek refuge elsewhere)

Just to be clear, I'm not North Macedonian. Fuck anyone who is.

I'm trying to get my head around this...... Is the agreement now official?
How can a PM have the power to change a constitution?

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;174087]Just to be clear, I'm not North Macedonian. Fuck anyone who is.[/QUOTE]

plus one !

[QUOTE=Bill77;174088]I'm trying to get my head around this...... Is the agreement now official?
How can a PM have the power to change a constitution?[/QUOTE]

I think there's many hurdles that have to be jumped before this is 'official' in any capacity...at best todays signing event is merely a dog and pony show...but the questions will remain about its legitimacy, I'm sure many will accept a certain inevitability about it and those people in Macedonia will leave it at that and just continue to bemoan their plight or that it is further proof that they're cursed...