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I wish them all the best, Let's hope they succeed.

[QUOTE] "The Headquarters of the World Macedonian Congress in Skopje, Macedonia, filed for criminal proceedings against Zaev and Dimitrov..."
[url]http://www.wmc-a.com/world-macedonian-congress-files-criminal-proceedings-against-zaev-and-dimitrov-for-crimes-against-the-state-and-the-nation/[/url] [/QUOTE]

i knew nothing about this org so i did a little search and i was delighted when
i read who the National Executive DirectorMedia & Public Relations.
One of our own, in Julie Corby.

You go Sis :thumbup1:

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[B][I]A Ship of Fools[/I][/B]:

Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. The sailors are quarreling with one another about the steering––every one is of the opinion that he has a right to steer, though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard, and having first chained up the noble captain's senses with drink or some narcotic drug, they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain's hands into their own whether by force or persuasion, they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steerer, whether other people like or not––the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer's art has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling. Now in vessels which are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing?[1]

[1] Plato. "VI". Republic. Translated by Jowett, Benjamin.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_fools[/url]

What a freaky coincidence....... during typing my above post, July you posted :)
good to hear from you again.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;174062][B][I]A Ship of Fools[/I][/B]:

Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. The sailors are quarreling with one another about the steering––every one is of the opinion that he has a right to steer, though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard, and having first chained up the noble captain's senses with drink or some narcotic drug, they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain's hands into their own whether by force or persuasion, they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steerer, whether other people like or not––the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer's art has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling. Now in vessels which are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing?[1]

[1] Plato. "VI". Republic. Translated by Jowett, Benjamin.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_fools[/url][/QUOTE] Good stuff Phoenix.....

[QUOTE=Bill77;174060]I wish them all the best, Let's hope they succeed.

i knew nothing about this org so i did a little search and i was delighted when
i read who the National Executive DirectorMedia & Public Relations.
One of our own, in Julie Corby.

You go Sis :thumbup1:[/QUOTE]

am part of World Macedonian Congress Australia , thanks Bill

My helplessness is what prompted me to do something , where am unable to physically assist, from home. It is truly bleak , the "agreement' basically wipes our identity away

[url]http://www.wmc-a.com/brief-analysis-of-agreement-change-of-name/[/url]

The signing ceremony just concluded.

[QUOTE=Rogi;174067]The signing ceremony just concluded.[/QUOTE]

[img]https://vgy.me/NLPzDk.jpg[/img]

Is all i can say or feel

[QUOTE=Bill77;174069][img]https://vgy.me/NLPzDk.jpg[/img]

Is all i can say or feel[/QUOTE]

many of us are feeling collective pain

With any luck they will be greeted like this on their way back to the shores of Macedonian-controlled Lake Prespa:

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