What he basically said in the beginning is that he will speak in the [U][B]south-Slavic[/B][/U] language. In the end, I believe he translated everything into Greek - but before he spoke in Greek again, he said he will speak in the [B][U]Macedonian language - an (ancient) Greek dialect[/U][/B]. People can correct me if I'm wrong in my interpretation.

So, in his address to the "friends from Northern Macedonia" I think he essentially [I]emphasized[/I] that "Macedonian" is a Greek language and/or dialect ([I]going back to antiquity[/I]), while calling the language of his "friends in N. Macedonia" a south-Slavic language.

As we saw previously, the Greek side - even the current govt of Tsipras which signed (or will soon sign) the agreement - does not recognize, and is not obligated or required to call the language of Macedonia [I]"Macedonian language"[/I].


FYI - I just found this.

[B]Dr Petros Karatsareas, Lecturer in English Language and Linguistics at the University of Westminster, wrote an article for The Conversation on how the Greek Macedonian Slavic language was wiped out by linguistic oppression.[/B]

URL:
[B][url]https://www.westminster.ac.uk/news-and-events/in-the-media/2018/the-conversation-greece-s-macedonian-slavic-heritage-was-wiped-out-by-linguistic-oppression-here-s-how[/url][/B]

In the article, Dr Karatsareas described how the Macedonian Slavic language was progressively banned and wiped out, following Greece’s territory and population’s expansion after winning the two Balkan wars.

Dr Karatsareas explained that this territorial change resulted in the creation of new state borders that did not coincide with linguistic ones. The article stated that the Greek government was, at that time, ‘keen to promote nationalism and started to show discomfort towards Greece’s new multilingual face’. As outlined, a period of oppression towards Macedonian Slavic speakers, who developed fear of speaking their language on the territory, followed. Dr Karatsareas explained that this caused the progressive loss of the Macedonian Slavic language and heritage in Greece.

URL - [U][B]Full Article, written on April 19, 2018[/B][/U]:
[B][url]https://theconversation.com/greeces-macedonian-slavic-heritage-was-wiped-out-by-linguistic-oppression-heres-how-94675[/url][/B]

Some excerpts from the article.

1) [COLOR="Blue"]My own paternal grandfather’s family name became Karatsareas from Karachorov. My maternal grandfather’s one became Kantzouris from Kanzurov. The area of Karadzova was renamed Almopia with its main town of Subotsko becoming Aridaia. The dance Puscheno was called Leventikos or Lytos. The aim was to leave no visible trace of Macedonian Slavic in public records.[/COLOR]

2) [COLOR="blue"]In 1936, the governor-general of Macedonia issued order of prohibition 122770: “On the restoration of the uniform language”, banning the use of Macedonian Slavic in both public and private. People caught speaking Macedonian Slavic – sometimes by police officers eavesdropping through people’s windows – were dragged to military police stations where they were beaten and sometimes tortured. Those who had the money were fined. Teachers beat pupils who spoke Macedonian Slavic in class or in the playground – even when that was the only language they were able to speak. This happened to my maternal grandmother.[/COLOR]

3) [COLOR="blue"]In 1994, Human Rights Watch called for Greece to end harassment of Macedonian Slavic speakers. In 1998, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Greece violated the right of its citizens to form associations by refusing them permission to establish a Macedonian Slavic cultural association. But these calls came much too late.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Carlin15;174014]I think he essentially [I]emphasized[/I] that "Macedonian" is a Greek language and/or dialect ([I]going back to antiquity[/I])[/QUOTE]
If that's what he actually said then he is a delusional moron.

As for Petros Karatsareas' article, see here: [url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8963&highlight=petros[/url]

It is a decent article, but he should honour his ancestors by using the same name for the language they did - which is Macedonian. He should also be accurate when referring to Human Rights Watch who also refer to the language as Macedonian.

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;174015]If that's what he actually said then he is a delusional moron.

As for Petros Karatsareas' article, see here: [url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8963&highlight=petros[/url]

It is a decent article, but he should honour his ancestors by using the same name for the language they did - which is Macedonian. He should also be accurate when referring to Human Rights Watch who also refer to the language as Macedonian.[/QUOTE]

I'm late to the game on this one.

This is on Karatsareas' Twitter -
[img]https://i.imgur.com/bnW5Hdq.jpg[/img]

1) [SIZE="3"]Panos Kammenos: "We commit that the agreement will never be ratified!"[/SIZE]

[url]https://vecer.mk/makedonija/shok-od-kamenos-se-obvrzuvame-deka-dogovorot-nikogash-nema-da-se-ratifikuva[/url]

2) Потпишувањето на договорот за името утре во 9:30 часот, во понеделник изутрина законот за ратификација на Влада

Законот за ратификација планирано е да помине на Владина седница во понеделник во 9 часот утрото, [U]по што ќе биде пратен во Собранието[/U].

[url]https://fokus.mk/potpishuvaneto-na-dogovorot-za-imeto-utre-vo-9-30-chasot-vo-ponedelnik-izutrina-zakonot-za-ratifikatsija-na-vlada/[/url]

Full translation of the link in the previous post. Looks like they're doing it on the Greek side of the border. And all these EU and UN maggots are coming to witness the final capitulation of Macedonia's politicians. It's all up to the Macedonian people now. Extreme situations require extreme measures. God help us.
[QUOTE]The signing of the name issue tomorrow, at 9:30 am, Monday morning, the law on ratification of the Government. Matthew Nimetz, Federica Mogherini, Johannes Hahn and Rosemary DiCarlo, UN Secretary General's Deputy Antonio Guterres will witness the signing of the name row tomorrow at 9:30 am in Prespa on the Greek side between the heads of diplomats of Macedonia and Greece, Nikola Dimitrov and Nikos Kodzias, announced 24Vesti. The Macedonian official delegation, with the exception of Prime Minister Zoran Zaev and Foreign Minister Nikola Dimitrov, will be Deputy Prime Ministers Bujar Osmani, Radmila Sekerinska and Oliver Spasovski. The law on ratification is planned to pass at the Government session on Monday at 9 am, after which it will be sent to the Parliament.[/QUOTE]

Imagine a politician or leader that realises he hasn't been working in the best interest of his people, and finally takes a stand at the moment of truth. Tomorrow is a great day to (figuratively) turn Prespa into another Bannockburn :) Unfortunately, such idealism is absent in this current mob of traitors.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eclbaC3q94k[/url]

[SIZE="3"]Greek police fired teargas at protesters outside the parliament building in central Athens on June 16, as lawmakers were in session discussing a no-confidence motion against the government over a deal to end a decades-old dispute with neighboring Macedonia. [/SIZE]

URL:
[url]https://www.rferl.org/a/greeks-protest-against-macedonia-name-deal/29293168.html[/url]

[B][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"][B]Greek PM Tsipras survives no-confidence vote over Macedonia name deal[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

(AP)

[SIZE="5"][B][COLOR="Red"]Albanian news channel from Macedonia interviews native Macedonians, Albanian workers, in Psarades/Nivici, Prespa[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

They start speaking Macedonian at 2:10

[B]VIDEO:[/B] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH3DDjF3bUQ[/url]

[B]Lol "Grci sme, zborvate Makedonski?"[/B]

[QUOTE=Niko777;174041][B]VIDEO:[/B] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH3DDjF3bUQ[/url]

[B]Lol "Grci sme, zborvate Makedonski?"[/B][/QUOTE]
Indeed. He spoke Macedonian well enough, as did the other lady. I guess generations of brainwashing has him calling himself Greek now, but I don't think he got the memo about not calling his native language Macedonian. The policies of successive Greek regimes have unfortunately ruined many of our people in those parts. Anyway, it's interesting when he says "не знам шо ке стани сеа, или на добро или на лошо....не знаиме, мене ми се пули на лошо, за грцката македонија". I am assuming this is in relation to the "agreement" given the recent upload date of the clip. What do you think he meant by that?

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;174042]Anyway, it's interesting when he says "не знам шо ке стани сеа, или на добро или на лошо....не знаиме, мене ми се пули на лошо, за грцката македонија". I am assuming this is in relation to the "agreement" given the recent upload date of the clip. What do you think he meant by that?[/QUOTE]

He means the agreement is a threat for the "Greekness" of Aegean Macedonia... in other words it will open up more issues challenging the Greek narrative of Macedonia. He (like 99% of Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia) is confused about his identity, on one hand he has no issue calling his native language Macedonian, on the other hand he's defending Greek interests.