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Risto the Great 11-11-2010 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=OziMak;77700]If the UMD cannot or will not explain themselves then we can chalk them up on the traitors list and I hope that every Macedonian gets to see their position and knows them well and treat them appropriately in future.[/QUOTE]
They have not and never will explain themselves

Makedonska_Kafana 11-11-2010 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;77708]They have not and never will explain themselves[/QUOTE]

UPDATED

Meto - what ethnic cleansing? it is only ethnic cleansing when the Macedonians don't do anything about it! Macedonia applied to join NATO as "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" - there is no other way it can join. Why is Macedonia suing Greece? Because Greece violated the Interim Accord. I could care less if you think I am a sell-out becuse I am stating the truth.

Alex - Okay, please stop lying and telling people the ONLY name acceptable to the UMD is Republic of Macedonia. Who are you representing?

Alex - PLEASE READ THIS .. [url]http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/172/51/[/url]

Argie - Things are rarely a zero-sum game, thus the reason pragmatism ultimately prevails. The late president Boris Trajkovski may have answered this debate the best. “In today’s Macedonia, we suffer from a lack of trust on many levels. Most importantly, however, we suffer from a lack of trust between [each other] ..."

Alex - Angie, pretty hard to trust organizations that post things on their own website and don't have any understanding what it means. Did you read it?

Alex - UMD rejects any compromise over the historic, current, legal, and constitutionally binding name of the Republic of Macedonia. The name Macedonia is and will remain the name of our ancestral identity and nationality, regardless of how many negotiations are undertaken; our name will not be changed.

Risto the Great 11-11-2010 03:31 PM

Well I must insist ..... what the hell was so good about the article?

Makedonska_Kafana 11-11-2010 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;77713]Well I must insist ..... what the hell was so good about the article?[/QUOTE]
CLEAR, it ONLY applies to UMD members, NATO, EU, US Government and yes Athens as well now - a gift

Vangelovski 11-11-2010 04:57 PM

[quote=OziMak;77700]Is Meto going to claim he was misunderstood.

In another thread I suggested using the UMD as a mouthpiece as they have the clout to call a media conference and media outlets to listen to them unlike the multitudes of Macedonians who no media outlet pays attention to but so long as it is for our common good.

It appears to me that there are many Macedonians capable of refuting the Greek lies on history and clarify why Macedonia is not Greek but do not get a chance to voice their views in the media. This is where cooperation between individuals or organisations and the UMD could be beneficial to the Macedonian cause but with a statement of support for this article Meto is demonstrating he is clearly not on the same page.

Very disappointing Meto. The UMD organisation needs to make its own statement refuting Metos statements or wallow in the same filth Meto has put himself in.

It is statements like this that makes you loose the hearts and minds of the Macedonians. If the UMD cannot or will not explain themselves then we can chalk them up on the traitors list and I hope that every Macedonian gets to see their position and knows them well and treat them appropriately in future.[/quote]

OziMak,

Did you just wake up?

Makedonska_Kafana 11-11-2010 08:17 PM

The post has mysteriously disappeared from FB just when I thought we would get some honest answers - guess not, it's the little things people never forget.


[quote="UMDiaspora.org"]

This is absolutely false and completely taken out of context. No further comment.

[/quote]

Vangelovski 11-11-2010 08:23 PM

[quote=Makedonska_Kafana;77749]The post has mysteriously disappeared from FB just when I thought we would get some honest answers - guess not, it's the little things people never forget.[/quote]

Meto might as well have just left it - I saved the page yesterday.

Risto the Great 11-11-2010 08:24 PM

What post? The one about the article being "good"?

Vangelovski 11-11-2010 08:27 PM

[quote=Risto the Great;77752]What post? The one about the article being "good"?[/quote]

That's the one.

Makedonska_Kafana 11-11-2010 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;77751]Meto might as well have just left it - I saved the page yesterday.[/QUOTE]
Looks like Jason is protecting his pal at our cost - OUR NAME IS OUR NAME!!?


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