[QUOTE]На помалку од една недела до референдумското изјаснување ниту половина од гласачите во Македонија не ги знаат одредбите од договорот со Грција.

Less than a week before the referendum vote, half of the voters in Macedonia do not know the provisions of the agreement with Greece. [/QUOTE]
Seriously, how can a nation go to a vote on such a fundamental matter and not even know a thing about what this vote is about?

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;176586]Seriously, how can a nation go to a vote on such a fundamental matter and not even know a thing about what this vote is about?[/QUOTE]

RtG, you're applying a modern, western-world/Australian perspective to what is essentially a medieval/Balkan, way of doing business.

This is the only way such treachery can win the day, with 'bull in the china shop' diplomacy and leadership, together with a complete lack of transparency, the calculated exclusion of the majority of stakeholders in the decision making process and the total disregard for following any rule of law...such dysfunction plays out perfectly when you consider the toxic apathy of the populace.

[QUOTE=Gocka;176580]There is no need for a vast conspiracy, its all right there in plain sight for all to see.[/QUOTE]

It was a lazy attempt at sarcasm re: America’s current offensive against Russia. It was not meant to imply some kind of grand conspiracy

[QUOTE=Phoenix;176589]..such dysfunction plays out perfectly when you consider the toxic apathy of the populace.[/QUOTE]
One day we will say "I told you so". But they will still be too ignorant to understand what they lost in their death by a thousand cuts.

The attempt was fine and I fully got it.

I was merely venting. These days I have to let it out every few hours otherwise I might explode.

[QUOTE=Tomche Makedonche;176591]It was a lazy attempt at sarcasm re: America’s current offensive against Russia. It was not meant to imply some kind of grand conspiracy[/QUOTE]

How can the wording of the referendum question be they way it is? Total deception by omission. No public debates on TV I'd imagine.
A little tough to watch it all go down with a whimper.

There are public debates/town halls taking place:
[url]https://time.mk/tv/v/bkydIoDmEnU[/url]

This article says it all about prespa identity changing agreement. I thought I’d post it as we are so close to the end.

[url]https://m.mkd.mk/kolumni/romantizam-nasproti-realizam-za-spogodbata-za-promena-na-imeto[/url]

Zaev again emphasizes that if the majority of those who vote do vote yes, then that is enough to pass the agreement.

Many of us have said it before and I'll say it again: If this happens, and the Macedonians don't resist not only the change to the name/identity, but also complete ignorance of the constitution and democratic values, then they don't deserve to have Macedonia and they don't deserve to have a democracy.

[URL="https://balkaneu.com/zaev-for-nezavisen-vesnik-the-final-decision-will-be-made-by-those-who-will-vote/"]https://balkaneu.com/zaev-for-nezavisen-vesnik-the-final-decision-will-be-made-by-those-who-will-vote/[/URL]


[QUOTE]- Since the forthcoming referendum has been called consultative, there are still doubts about what conditions need to be met for the process to be considered successful?

- I believe that we will have a successful referendum. I believe that the vast majority of citizens share the same vision for our country as a country in which prosperity, security and equal opportunities are available to all. This is the vision for a European Macedonia.[B][U] A successful consultative referendum means that a vast majority of citizens who go to polling stations will choose "for".

[/U][/B]

After the referendum, MPs in the Assembly should respect the decision of the majority of the citizens who voted.

Therefore, every citizen should come out, vote and thus decide on the future of Macedonia.[B] Only those who go out to vote have the opportunity to decide.[/B] Their voice will be heard. We are close to dreaming.

- The expectations are that the agreement, however, will be ratified in the parliament in Athens, despite the reactions of the opposition there, as well as part of Tsipras's coalition partners. How will the process of full membership of Macedonia in NATO proceed?

The process for our full NATO membership has already begun. We received an invitation for NATO membership. What we did not get in 2008, we got now, as a result of the great success of the citizens of Macedonia. The outcome of the referendum will give impetus to the Assembly to adopt the constitutional changes, by a two-thirds majority, provided for in the agreement by the end of December this year. The very next month, in January 2019, the process of ratification of the protocol for Macedonia's membership in the national parliaments of the 29 NATO member states will begin. Greece will be the first member state to ratify the membership protocol, along with the Agreement. With the accession protocol our country acquires the right to participate in all NATO structures and get a seat at the main table of the North Atlantic Council. We will sit next to Norway. The ratification of the agreement for accession of the parliaments of all NATO member states lasts about a year and a half.

Aleksandra M. Mitevska [/QUOTE]

Look how mental America and the American media is:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/macedonia-is-a-tiny-country-with-a-giant-russia-problem/2018/09/20/47a674d2-bb6b-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html?outputType=comment&utm_term=.9f355ffc1590[/url]

Apparently Macedonia has a big Russian problem, the last time I checked it was western politicians coming out in support of the name and indentity change so that we could join their organisations, the alternative is to suffer the same fate of North Korea.