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Dimko-piperkata 07-07-2009 05:46 AM

LOL

u r right SoM, in reality nimetz dont want or dont care about the nameissue, heīs enjoyning his trips through the world and gets in addition a lot of money for his pseudo negotiations

Giorikas 07-07-2009 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=Sovius;19270]Itís interesting, after all this time, Giorkas still canít connect the dots. He doesnít seem to possess the ability to develop a realistic understanding of the world as a result of the assimilation of his ancestors. Heís somehow able to rationalize the irrational within the context of his perceptual limitations and is quite confident that he is correct in all instances, even though every argument the Republic of Hellas has used against Macedonia has been discredited beyond the shadow of any doubt. Political fabrications only last as long as the political systems that wove them. Iím reminded of the story of ďThe emperorís new clothsĒ.[/QUOTE]

All this time ? Compare my time with most internet warriors here. I like to measure things: count the messages. These guys have been around year after year fighting for the cause with zero result .... Discredited ? Ask 340 PHD's who disagree with you. Not to mention that quite a few politicians in ROM have said the same as I. In fact I see no-one really on the barricades for ROM. Not NATO, not the EU. So, how isolated are my views really ?
The emperor's new cloths ? How about Don Quixote ?

The LION will ROAR 07-07-2009 05:37 PM

EuroBalkan: Macedonia should end negotiations with Greece

[url]http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/7429/45/[/url]

Immediate stop to all negotiations with Greece, suggested today the 'EuroBalkan' Institute. If for one or another reason Macedonia stays in this 'negotiations' the red line is of technical nature and nothing less than a double formula can be accepted, says 'EuroBalkan'.

Nimetz, the Institute says, has gone out of his mandate given to him by the UN.

"Macedonia has the legitimate right to leave all negotiations at once, because these 'negotiations' are first - unlawful, they are breaching the UN Charter and Convention, the UN itself has broken its own Charter, and lastly Greece had breached the Interim Agreement", says Jovan Donev of "EuroBalkan".


Nimetz's so called proposals are only articulations of Greece's wishes. It is clear, Greece is seeking geographical name for all use. We don't have a partner to negotiate with, says Donev, adding - Macedonia is under a special war.

Calling for exclusivity on history, history only known to Greece as a basis to negate the right of self identification of an independent nation can become a very dangerous precedent.

For Mr. Donev, an inclusion of the albanian political factor in the name negotiations is a simple political marketing, while calling the scenarios and blackmails for 'destabilization' of the country if the name dispute is not solved quickly as 'ridiculous', a scare tactic used by the opposition for 20 years.


'EuroBalkan" does not expect any progress in the name negotiations until the end of the year.

Risto the Great 07-07-2009 06:40 PM

The EuroBalkan institute appears to have the right idea.

Risto the Great 07-07-2009 06:52 PM

Ummm, I asked the Professors. They were embarrassed if you really want to know. Quite apologetic too. And guess what, they HAVE been paid by the Greek State. And guess why they will not take their names off the list .... because they will CONTINUE to be paid by the Greek State.

But my dear little cockroach friend, I now know what makes them tick. Watch what happens when we release the pesticide on a large scale. I have already released a little and their legs are now pointing upwards.

I note you still have not been able to reply to the thread link I gave you. Don't you agree that it is a little shallow of you to keep your non-consequential banter going on here without assessing the validity of the author's research in the link provided? He actually lives in Macedonia .... and you .... don't. Although I reckon if I find a dark place in Macedonia, I might find you or your friends underneath a pile of rubbish or something.

Carry on big guy.

Sovius 07-07-2009 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=Giorikas;19282]All this time ? Compare my time with most internet warriors here. I like to measure things: count the messages. These guys have been around year after year fighting for the cause with zero result .... Discredited ? Ask 340 PHD's who disagree with you. Not to mention that quite a few politicians in ROM have said the same as I. In fact I see no-one really on the barricades for ROM. Not NATO, not the EU. So, how isolated are my views really ?
The emperor's new cloths ? How about Don Quixote ?[/QUOTE]

340 out of 4,730.5 Not bad.

I have found a great many similarities between the Donís dragons and the Modern Greek argument, as well, and, considering that windmills are also powered by hot air, it would seem as though we are now in agreement. I salute you on your progress. In less than a day you have managed to pull your head out of your ass. Itís now up to you to lead your people out of the darkness and into the light. The truth shall be your crowbar. Best of luck to you in your new calling. Perhaps, if there is a Macedonian out there who no longer needs his tortoise shell shield and reed breathing tube, you can borrow them for your quest? Now, all youíll need is a horse and youíre good to go! Maybe you would be willing to settle for a donkey and ride yourself back to Morea?

Giorikas 07-08-2009 08:24 AM

[QUOTE=Sovius;19302]340 out of 4,730.5 Not bad.

I have found a great many similarities between the Donís dragons and the Modern Greek argument, as well, and, considering that windmills are also powered by hot air, it would seem as though we are now in agreement. I salute you on your progress. In less than a day you have managed to pull your head out of your ass. Itís now up to you to lead your people out of the darkness and into the light. The truth shall be your crowbar. Best of luck to you in your new calling. Perhaps, if there is a Macedonian out there who no longer needs his tortoise shell shield and reed breathing tube, you can borrow them for your quest? Now, all youíll need is a horse and youíre good to go! Maybe you would be willing to settle for a donkey and ride yourself back to Morea?[/QUOTE]

Hello Sovius,

Why don't you do the same, find a bunch of PHD's to discredit the Greek position. That should give us an idea how well accpted or controversial your position is.

Giorikas 07-08-2009 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;19292]Ummm, I asked the Professors. They were embarrassed if you really want to know. Quite apologetic too. And guess what, they HAVE been paid by the Greek State. And guess why they will not take their names off the list .... because they will CONTINUE to be paid by the Greek State.

But my dear little cockroach friend, I now know what makes them tick. Watch what happens when we release the pesticide on a large scale. I have already released a little and their legs are now pointing upwards.

I note you still have not been able to reply to the thread link I gave you. Don't you agree that it is a little shallow of you to keep your non-consequential banter going on here without assessing the validity of the author's research in the link provided? He actually lives in Macedonia .... and you .... don't. Although I reckon if I find a dark place in Macedonia, I might find you or your friends underneath a pile of rubbish or something.

Carry on big guy.[/QUOTE]

Ah, the link. So on what do you want me to comment in this 14 page report exactly? Hang on there, wasn't this produced by someone from the Racist Greek educational system that brainwashes people ? Should the author not have been fired, prosecuted, terrorised for speaking his mind ? Wasn't there a sensorship in Greece ? Should the guy by now not have diasappeared? That's what you made us all believe all this time. No reason to believe that what he writes is necessarily wrong (but just read a few parts). Just I would call those he refers to Slav-Greeks, not Macedonians. We disagree on that only. Apart from that, I never changed my mind that in the past the Greek state was not that good to them. But that's over now. Now we negotiate with a mediater, Mr. Nimitz, on what your name will be. Not on the existance of minorities. And surely we are not discussing adding 'Eagean Macedonia' to ROM hahaha.

Regarding the PHD's story. You asked the professors. Bravo. Please expose the names here so that we might check your statements. Surely you'll put your money where your mouth is, eh ? And surely you see no need to protect your enemies that have apparently been paid off (and still). Funny that they should admit that in a correspondance. Tell me more about the pesticide you released and the legs.

Oh, please refrain from bad language or this will be my last message to you. I could the same back to you, but what kind of examples would we both set for those millions of Macedonians that are reading up on this hugely important non-fascist / non-nationalistic site.

Soldier of Macedon 07-08-2009 09:10 AM

The millions will be reading your racist garbage, and how you have come on this forum to deny the existence of another people. Let the millions read and know that you are a Greek racist and a piece of shit.

So, have you spoken to your Albanian Greeks yet, told them your thoughts, you hypocritical idiot? Go and tell them to leave their villages and towns if they want to identify as Greeks in Albania, the millions are watching.

Rogi 07-08-2009 09:15 AM

Giorikas, if you do not mind me asking do you have Vlach origins?
Sorry for the off-topic.


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