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Niko777 06-24-2018 08:58 PM

[B][COLOR="Red"]Secretary Pompeo urged French Foreign Minister Le Drian to support NATO extending an invitation to Macedonia to join, as well as the EU opening accession talks, following the signing of the name agreement between Greece and Macedonia.[/COLOR][/B]

Link: [url]https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/06/283460.htm[/url]

Gocka 06-24-2018 11:16 PM

I hate protests, because it gives people a false sense of accomplishment. A protest by itself, does absolutely nothing. The reason you protest is to show someone somewhere, that your in opposition to them and that you have to numbers behind your cause to do something about it. The part protesters seem to forget is the do something about it stage.

What are you going to do if the people you are protesting don't fear you?

Zaev is in office, the agreement is signed. You could threaten to vote him out, but when, years from now after everything is over? So again, what are you going to do about it? Making your opposition known, doesn't actually change anything.

Generations ago, protests were more of a courtesy warning, that you mean business. Now people seem to think its all you need to do.

Make demands, make a plan, elect a leader, execute the plan, don't just bitch and moan.

The current state of affairs in Macedonia have reached the point where the citizenry would be well within its democratic rights to forcefully remove the countries leadership on the grounds of disregarding the constitution and outright treason.

Unfortunately Macedonia is full of cafe leaders, not real ones. At the end of the day an angry mob is still just an angry mob, it has to coalesce into something more meaningful.

Tomche Makedonche 06-25-2018 12:17 AM

[QUOTE=Gocka;174603]What are you going to do if the people you are protesting don't fear you?[/QUOTE]

Good question

[QUOTE=Gocka;174603]Generations ago, protests were more of a courtesy warning, that you mean business. Now people seem to think its all you need to do.[/QUOTE]

And a better observation.

Risto the Great 06-25-2018 01:22 AM

Maybe it is the diaspora's fault. We have treated the severedFyromians like their opinions matter. Maybe we can do more to highlight their pathetic meanderings through life.

Maybe we should fund billboards all around Macedonia. Some headlines based on discussions of late:

- We remember our name.
- We fought for our name when you were going to court to be called FYROM.
- We remember ALL the politicians who sold your country (not just the current one)
- We in the Diaspora give more to Macedonia than your tax system collects.
- We remember Kukush
- We remember our Macedonian brothers and sisters in Egej, Pirin and elsewhere
INSERT A MILLION LINES HERE
- YOU have the power to change this, stop embarrassing Macedonians around the world.

Risto the Great 06-25-2018 01:25 AM

I asked a guy in Portugal what he thinks of the EU. It was a funny answer. He said it was like when your boss gives you a free phone to use. Sounds great, but then he calls you all the time. And there is the EU .... nothing is free.

kompir 06-25-2018 01:42 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;174615]I asked a guy in Portugal what he thinks of the EU. It was a funny answer. He said it was like when your boss gives you a free phone to use. Sounds great, but then he calls you all the time. And there is the EU .... nothing is free.[/QUOTE]

Except I used to leave the boss provided phone at work :D

molika 06-25-2018 02:52 AM

Hello old friends kako sve

molika 06-25-2018 02:53 AM

I haven’t come on in so long

Risto the Great 06-25-2018 03:14 AM

Hi Molika, we're still Macedonians for the time being. Hope you've been well.

Soldier of Macedon 06-25-2018 07:58 AM

[QUOTE=molika;174620]Hello old friends kako sve[/QUOTE]
Hi Molika, nice to see you back here again :)


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