[QUOTE=Bill77;172583]Blood is thicker than water i suppose



[url]http://i.cubeupload.com/mvhiVB.jpg[/url]

The cordial meeting between the two is expected but sickening nonetheless[/QUOTE]

They share the same desire to destroy Macedonia...

Just to clarify for any casual visitors to this forum, the "blood is thicker than water" comment in reference to the picture of Ali Ahmeti and Nikos Kotzias embracing is that both are ethnic Albanians.

[QUOTE=Karposh;172586]Just to clarify for any casual visitors to this forum, the "blood is thicker than water" comment in reference to the picture of Ali Ahmeti and Nikos Kotzias embracing is that both are ethnic Albanians.[/QUOTE]

Do you know something we dont?
[IMG]http://www.iefimerida.gr/sites/default/files/styles/708x320/public/tsamhdes-presveianea.jpg?itok=sWWsdbbD[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Amphipolis;172587]Do you know something we dont?
[IMG]http://www.iefimerida.gr/sites/default/files/styles/708x320/public/tsamhdes-presveianea.jpg?itok=sWWsdbbD[/IMG][/QUOTE]

You sound surprised Amphipolis. Does it surprise you to learn that your former Deputy Prime Minister of Greece, Theodoros Pangalos is an Albanian too? All your picture says is that Kotzias might be a Hellenised Albanian, that's all. It doesn't prove that he is not an Albanian. We have plenty of Hellenised Macedonians in Greece holding the torch to Hellenism...Nevertheless, as you suspected, I don't have any proof that he is an Albanian. It's just a rumour that I've heard which I'm more than happy to be spreading. Our trusted source Wikipedia does speculate a little in the Talk page about his possible Albanian or Turkish roots. That's usually good enough for you Greeks and Bulgarians when it comes to throwing mud on our identity so, I figured it would be good enough for me too to offer this as "evidence" of Kotzias' non Greekness and possible Albanian or Turkish roots.

[QUOTE=Amphipolis;172587]Do you know something we dont?
[IMG]http://www.iefimerida.gr/sites/default/files/styles/708x320/public/tsamhdes-presveianea.jpg?itok=sWWsdbbD[/IMG][/QUOTE] There are Statues in Macedonia honoring World War II Nazi collaborators built by Macedonia’s ethnic Albanian. Kotzias would be proud.

Kotzias brought his own rubber stamp during this week's meetings in Skopje

[IMG]https://www.tribune.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/media_programm-630x400.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Niko777;172593]Kotzias brought his own rubber stamp during this week's meetings in Skopje

[IMG]https://www.tribune.gr/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/media_programm-630x400.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

LoL only in Macedonia

If I was Kotzias I would have stamped Zaevs forehead right after landing. I'm sure Zoran would just smile and thank him.

[QUOTE=Amphipolis;172587]Do you know something we dont?

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[IMG]https://jeffrossblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/elephantintheroom-leo_cullum.png[/IMG]

[B]Abedin Rakipi[/B] claims that Kotzias is an Arvanite (Albanian). He also states that Dora Bakoyannis is an Arvanite.

Google translation/summary of the second paragraph:

[COLOR="Navy"]In a university conference among the famous Arvanite surnames Maria Efthimiou also mentions the surname Kotzias. Kotzias or more precisely [B]Kotzia[/B] ([B]Kocia[/B]) is an Arvanite surname. [/COLOR]

URLs:
[url]http://www.kohajone.com/2016/11/02/zoti-kotzias-ju-jeni-shqiptar-por-nuk-e-dini/[/url]
[url]http://abedinrakipi.blogspot.ca/2016/11/zoti-kotzias-ju-jeni-shqiptar-por-nuk-e.html?m=1[/url]

[QUOTE=Carlin15;172598][B]Abedin Rakipi[/B] claims that Kotzias is an Arvanite (Albanian). He also states that Dora Bakoyannis is an Arvanite.

Google translation/summary of the second paragraph:

[COLOR="Navy"]In a university conference among the famous Arvanite surnames Maria Efthimiou also mentions the surname Kotzias. Kotzias or more precisely [B]Kotzia[/B] ([B]Kocia[/B]) is an Arvanite surname. [/COLOR]

URLs:
[url]http://www.kohajone.com/2016/11/02/zoti-kotzias-ju-jeni-shqiptar-por-nuk-e-dini/[/url]
[url]http://abedinrakipi.blogspot.ca/2016/11/zoti-kotzias-ju-jeni-shqiptar-por-nuk-e.html?m=1[/url][/QUOTE]

Regarding Dora Bakoyiani (daughter of Constantine Mitsotakis) that refers to her mother Marika (Yanoukos family from Athens) as Mitsotakis is a Cretan (related to Venizelos family). This partial Arvanite ancestry also applies to Dora's brother Kyriakos, who's running to be our next Prime Minister.

[IMG]http://www.mixanitouxronou.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/mhtsotakhs-marika-zevgari.jpg[/IMG]

Regarding Kotzias I can not confirm. It's not an issue of etymology (which is either Turkish or Greek or unclear, not Albanian), but it's possible that this surname is common between Arvanites (I only found the geographical distribution). Arvanites don't necessarily have surnames with Albanian etymology.

[URL="http://apps.vrisko.gr/apo-pou-krataei-i-skoufia-sou/%ce%ba%ce%bf%cf%84%ce%b6%ce%b9%ce%ac%cf%82"]http://apps.vrisko.gr/apo-pou-krataei-i-skoufia-sou/%ce%ba%ce%bf%cf%84%ce%b6%ce%b9%ce%ac%cf%82[/URL]

Kotzias claims he is not related to the former Mayor of Athens Constantine Kotzias, and that he is not his... son or grandson, as the Cham Albanians accused him of.


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