How about bilingual Albo?

[QUOTE=Dejan;171655]How about bilingual Albo?[/QUOTE]

It's ok to be against the Greeks but not the Albanians because they can do no wrong.

I find it appalling, among other things, that no one on the Macedonian side seems to be bothered with the amount of disregard the Greek side has with the Macedonian language. It's as if Greece is now saying: "Go ahead, use "Makedonija" in a compound form, but don't use it in any other language but your own, it's ok if you're calling yourself "Makedonija", just don't let the world know your calling yourself Macedonia. Or as long as the world doesn't know that Makedonija means Macedonia then we have an agreement."

[QUOTE=Niko777;171658]I find it appalling, among other things, that no one on the Macedonian side seems to be bothered with the amount of disregard the Greek side has with the Macedonian language. It's as if Greece is now saying: "Go ahead, use "Makedonija" in a compound form, but don't use it in any other language but your own, it's ok if you're calling yourself "Makedonija", just don't let the world know your calling yourself Macedonia. Or as long as the world doesn't know that Makedonija means Macedonia then we have an agreement."[/QUOTE]

This isn't the Greek position. This sort of ideas has been thrown all these years, e.g. by Nimitz, and we DO find it stupid too.

[url]http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/identity-issues-not-part-of-macedonia-name-talks-nimetz-02-01-2018[/url]

[B]Nimetz Excludes 'Identity' Issues From Macedonia Talks[/B]

The process of overcoming the Macedonia ‘name’ dispute is moving ahead, but 'identity' issues are not part of it, the UN mediator in the dispute said in Skopje on Thursday.

During his visit to the Macedonia, UN mediator Matthew Nimetz said that issues about [Macedonian] "identity" are not part of his mandate – and that he had not heard the Greek side denying the identity of the people who live in Macedonia.

“There are differences between the two countries but I don’t hear from Athens a denial of [Macedonian] identity,” Nimetz told a joint press conference with the Macedonian Foreign Minister, Nikola Dimitrov.

Dimitrov also shared the UN mediator's optimism that the “name” talks were on the right track, adding that they had discussed some of the compromise name proposals that Nimetz extended to both sides in January in New York in detail.

“We told him that there are ideas that are not that bad, and that there are those which are not that good,” Dimitrov said, without going onto details himself.

Regarding fears in Macedonia that the talks could end up with a settlement that denies Macedonian national identity, Dimitrov said that renaming the Macedonian identity and the Macedonian language were non-negotiable points.

“If we reach a point where we need to touch the identity [of Macedonia] in order to reach a solution, there will unfortunately not be a solution. However, it will be very sad if two European countries in 2018 are not big enough to acknowledge this,” Dimitrov said.

Before meeting Macedonian Prime Minister Zoran Zaev, President Gjorge Ivanov and opposition chief Hristijan Mickoski, Nimetz said that the noticeable “momentum” in the "name" talks should be used to reach a solution.

“The next couple of months will decide whether we’re making real progress or not,” he told the media.

The dispute centres on Greece's insistence that use of the word Macedonia implies a territorial claim to the northern Greek province of the same name.

Athens insists that a new name must be found that makes a clear distinction between the Greek province and the country.

As a result of the unresolved dispute, in 2008, Greece blocked Macedonia’s NATO membership It has also blocked the start of Macedonia’s EU accession talks, despite several positive annual reports from the European Commission on the country’s progress.

Before visiting Macedonia, Nimetz spent Monday and Tuesday in Athens where he met Greek officials and where he repeated the same optimism about a breakthrough soon

[url]https://www.rferl.org/a/macedonia-greece-name-dispute-un-envoy-skopje-talks/29011488.html[/url]

[B]UN Mediator Meets With Macedonian Leaders On Name Dispute[/B]

UN negotiator Matthew Nimetz on February 1 voiced optimism that Balkan neighbors Macedonia and Greece could resolve a name dispute that has strained relations between the two countries for more than a quarter of a century.

After talks with Macedonia's leadership in Skopje, Nimetz told reporters that officials in both countries appear highly motivated to reach a solution over the name within the next couple of months.

Nimetz held meetings with Macedonian President Gjorge Ivanov, Prime Minister Zoran Zaev, Foreign Minister Nikola Dimitrov, and party leaders.

"I am very, very optimistic. There is a window of opportunity and I think we should go forward quickly and move to solution in the next couple of months," Nimetz said after traveling to Macedonia following talks in Greece.

"[I] generally feel the process is moving forward. There is a good will on both sides to reach a solution to this long-standing problem."

The dispute broke out after Macedonia, for decades a part of the former Yugoslavia, gained independence in 1991.

Greece argues the neighbor's name implies claims on its own province of Macedonia and wants it changed. The Macedonian government denies the charge.

Greek officials are said to favor a modifier to the word Macedonia by adding "Upper," "New," or "North" to it.

UN negotiator Matthew Nimetz on February 1 voiced optimism that Balkan neighbors Macedonia and Greece could resolve a name dispute that has strained relations between the two countries for more than a quarter of a century.​

[U]'Dignified' Solution[/U]

NATO member Greece has been blocking Macedonia's accession to the alliance since 2008 until a solution is found.

Speaking alongside Nimetz, Macedonian Foreign Minister Nikola Dimitrov said Skopje wants a solution that will be "dignified" for the people in both countries -- but also a solution that would not endanger Macedonia's national identity and language.

But Dimitrov also voiced caution.

"I think the chances for us to find a way along the lines of what I talked about is by not being too explicit in the public until we have something -- both sides."

About 200 protesters gathered outside the European Union mission in Skopje during Nimetz's visit, demanding that talks be terminated.

Meanwhile, Greek Foreign Minister Nikos Kotzias said Athens would soon submit draft proposals to resolve the issue, adding that a settlement could be reached in the coming months.

Asked by Reuters what would constitute progress for Athens if the dispute with Skopje was not settled by June, Kotzias said, "It will be settled."

However, many Greeks object to any use of the word Macedonia in their neighbor's official name. A nationalist rally in the northern city of Thessaloniki drew more than 100,000 people on January 21, and a similar rally is scheduled in Athens on February 4.

The Greek Orthodox church has endorsed the rally, as well as influential organizations representing Greek communities in the United States and Canada

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About 200 protesters gathered outside the European Union mission in Skopje during Nimetz's visit, demanding that talks be terminated.[/QUOTE]200 real Macedonians did something useful.

[QUOTE]UN mediator Matthew Nimetz said that issues about [Macedonian] "identity" are not part of his mandate[/QUOTE]Changing the name of the country is his job. Therefore changing the Macedonian identity is his job.

MACEDONIA IS IRANIAN !

[url]https://www.freeinquiry.gr/single-post.php?id=4297[/url]

"Demonstrate, my brothers for Macedonia ... Skopje will never be accepted with the name Macedonia by the people's conscience," [B]Anthimos thundered from the pulpit during his sermon. "If we only shut (access) to the port (of Thessaloniki), [U]they're dead[/U] the following week.[/B]"

[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-greeks-rally-over-name-dispute-with-neighbor-macedonia-2018-1[/url]

Lol. [I]Spartan Warriors[/I] to safeguard Macedonia protest in Athens. Pictures form their arrival at Syntagma via the Metro.

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