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Risto the Great 03-21-2011 03:05 PM

The "Pangalos sentiment" will be more evident as time goes by in Greece. For Macedonia to be negotiating its identity whilst this is the case is utterly foolish to say the least.

George S. 03-21-2011 03:11 PM

I knew there were cracks i'ts only a matter of time i knew that the biggest weapon macedonia has got is world recognition.All it has to do is wait as the greeks fall on their sword.RTG you are right definitely foolish for macedonia to be negotiating it's name.

Daskalot 03-21-2011 04:22 PM

So in secret documents they have no problem with our name...... why are we entertaining them????

Risto the Great 03-21-2011 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;93378].... why are we entertaining them????[/QUOTE]
Macedonians love self-abuse it would seem.

makedonche 03-21-2011 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;93382]Macedonians love self-abuse it would seem.[/QUOTE]

It would seem they love the euro....and lots of them, so much so that you can change the Country's flag, change it's name and capitulate to terrorists, if you have enough euro's on the table, that is!:no:

julie 03-21-2011 06:16 PM

Astounding. Greeks have no issue with the macedonian name , seems the macedonian politicians are playing a dangerous game with our identity . How much more proof do the macedonian people need

Phoenix 03-21-2011 06:40 PM

It would seem they love the euro....and lots of them, so much so that you can change the Country's flag, change it's name and capitulate to terrorists, if you have enough euro's on the table, that is!:no:[/QUOTE]

Bingo!!!, although in the context of this thead it may be an inappropriate term, clearly it's about money...

Just take a look at what we're dealing with...on one side we have the 'greeks', as shifty and conniving as they come, experts in the greasing of palms and capable of doing anything to win favors...then on the other side, a procession of money starved criminals acting as politicians who are more than happy to sell off baba and dedo for a couple of euro and a 7 night holiday on Mykonos where they can cop some extra anal action...

Just look at all of these gypsies caught up in the latest bribery sting, the dog Thaler and his pack...this is the sort of action our leaders want to be involved the expense of the rest of us, our culture and our history.

Prolet 03-21-2011 08:23 PM

Pangalos: Macedonia is Macedonia, name problem is a "Disaster"
Pangalos is widely known for his hip hopping on the Macedonian issue, i dont think he likes Vinozito very much. I wonder if the neo fascist groups in Greece will slaughter him for this.

Monday, 21 March 2011

Wikileaks cables show Greek Deputy Prime Minister Theodoros Pangalos, told the US Ambassador to the country that the name dispute with Macedonia has been a "disaster" from the start and that Greece's neighbor should be allowed to use any name it wants.

According to a batch of classified diplomatic cables from the US Embassy in Athens that were originally obtained by WikiLeaks and later seen by the Greek daily Kathimerini, Pangalos met with then US Ambassador Daniel Speckhard in February 2008. In Spechkard's dispatch to the State Department, the diplomat reports that Pangalos said it was an honor to Greece that Skopje should want to use the term Macedonia and that it should be free to do so.

Pangalos also describes as "absurd" Greek fears that the 'FYR Macedonia' has expansionist tendencies. He blamed this on fears on the right of Greek politics, which stem back to the Civil War and concerns that communists would enter Greece from the Slavic countries.

According to the cable, Pangalos also expressed support for the proposals put forward by United Nations mediator Matthew Nimetz.

Theodoros Pangalos is a prominent Greek politician and leading member of the Panhellenic Socialist Movement (PASOK). He currently serves as the Vice-President of the Greek government, responsible for the coordination of the Government Council for Foreign Affairs and Defense and the new Economic & Social Policy Committee.

He is one of the very few Greek politicians that has paid an official visit to Macedonia.


George S. 03-22-2011 03:49 AM

THey want money to change the name.Remember greece has squirilled billions away from the eu.What's a couple of billion euros amongs't friends.Remember how our macedonian politicians went to athens on secret talks about the name.

Big Bad Sven 03-22-2011 08:52 AM

I think this is the further proof, on the subject that we have already known about, that the modern day “greek” has very little to do with Macedonia, so little that it doesn’t care one bit about Macedonia or this ridiculous “name game”.

The only people in grease that are affected and care about the Macedonian “issue” are the lost grkomani, because they are scared of their grkoman mask to fall off and then be revealed of what they are, posers and nobodys, just fakes.

It is obvious grease has nothing to loose in this, just embarrassment, whilst Macedonia has EVERYTHING to loose, as Macedonia is ours, and always was ours. Loosing Macedonia will be final nail in the coffin not only for the republic of Macedonia, but everything Macedonian.

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