Who do we hold responsible? the Macedonians who are the keepers of our Homeland or us who continue to choose to live outside of the Republic?

Instead of looking to whom or what to be accountable we are all responsible although I doubt nothing more then the locals making change happen.

I can say if the Government do the unthinkable and the Macedonians [U]more importantly[/U] are idle to it I will never accept ever returning to Macedonia again unless there is a armed revolution.

This statement was obviously for EU consumption, just like for local consumption they say we will not change the name.

Its funny how so many of you take every statement seriously after 20 years of the same bullshit.

[QUOTE=Volk;84993]This statement was obviously for EU consumption, just like for local consumption they say we will not change the name.

Its funny how so many of you take every statement seriously after 20 years of the same bullshit.[/QUOTE]

Volk
That may be true, but have you noticed the terminology has altered, the times lines are closer together between announcement and proposed meeting?

[QUOTE=Volk;84993]This statement was obviously for EU consumption, just like for local consumption they say we will not change the name.

Its funny how so many of you take every statement seriously after 20 years of the same bullshit.[/QUOTE]

I don't think the bullshit has been the same for 20 years. It has been getting stickier and smellier over this time. Nothing to be proud of since independence in my opinion.

that's right you can't blame everyone.Those that are going on with the negotiations will be responsibleThere's aalways hope so don't give up hope,look at the way greece is falling in a heap as it's defaulting on payments to the eu.

[quote=Volk;84993]This statement was obviously for EU consumption, just like for local consumption they say we will not change the name.

Its funny how so many of you take every statement seriously after 20 years of the same bullshit.[/quote]

What would be funny, if it wasn't so sad, is your complete disregard for all the capitulations to date and your focus on the one that has not yet happened regardless of the evidence that it is extremely likely.

[QUOTE=Volk;84993]This statement was obviously for EU consumption, just like for local consumption they say we will not change the name.

Its funny how so many of you take every statement seriously after 20 years of the same bullshit.[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying and have previously said similar things.

But this latest announcement has sent shivers down my spine.

[QUOTE=makedonche;84995]Volk
That may be true, [B]but have you noticed the terminology has altered, the times lines are closer together between announcement and proposed meeting?[/B][/QUOTE] Mabe this is my answer why i have shivers.

regardless of what happens we can still call ourselves macedonian.But those stupid politicians who cave in to pressure will be traitors.

[QUOTE=George S.;85004]But those stupid politicians who cave in to pressure will be traitors.[/QUOTE]
What about the stupid Macedonians that:[LIST][*]Voted for the ruling coalition.[*]Voted for the opposition party who clearly has been ready to capitulate from inception.[*]Didn't vote because they did not want to encourage any politicians.[/LIST]

shoot them before a firing squad for selling out.