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The first one is that [B]we will jointly preserve the European perspective[/B] for the region says Spindelegger, who earlier met with Macedonian FM Milososki.

With respect to the name row between Macedonia and Greece, FM Spindelegger says that [B]no proposal will be made[/B], because "there are structures established to discuss it."

"There is no lack of proposals, [B]only political will is lacking[/B] this issue to be finally removed from the agenda. This is what we demand from [B]both[/B][I]...go die australia...[/I]parties, because finally without a solution, Macedonia's progress towards EU is hampered. All proposals are being discussed for so long and I think that a solution should be finally reached," the Austrian FM notes. ba/fd/17:00[/FONT]

How long will we poke the dead horse with a stick...how much will the people in Macedonia take before they say enough is enough?
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Says it all. Keep dreaming Milososki. Macedonia thinks they have right on their side…and they do…and hence should prevail but not with people who don’t care if you are right or not…their pocket being full is more right than any principle rights you have. Milk it for another year if you can then run. You are never going to win flogging that dead horse.

Their focus should be reuniting the broken ties we suffered and the reunification of Macedonia North to South West & East and human rights for our familys.

Learn to be brave Macedonia and standup

[QUOTE="Protivpropaganda"]And last but not least we do not have a puppet Macedonian diaspora but individuals who work for the interests of others.[/QUOTE]
PP,

Please clarify what you mean by the above.

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;82619]PP,

Please clarify what you mean by the above.[/QUOTE]

PP
Yes - please clarify!

Sorry for the delay in the reply I had other engagements.
[QUOTE=julie;80625]protiv propaganda its heartening to hear that there is a collective consciousness in the macedonian identity . How can the diaspora help ?[/QUOTE]
That is why I am on this forum. To find out how the Diaspora can help.
It is obvious that there is something wrong in the communication between the Fatherland and the Diaspora.

Just giving money as help or charity didn't do the job. It just helped deepen the devide. Why? I have some theories but very little evidence to justify them. At this time I can only speculate on the matter which I am hesitant to do.

Our self awareness today compared to that of the time of our independence is very favourable but we are not out of the water yet, problems still persist and new ones are being constantly created.


[QUOTE][QUOTE]Soldier of Macedon
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Originally Posted by Protivpropaganda
And last but not least we do not have a puppet Macedonian diaspora but individuals who work for the interests of others. [/QUOTE]
PP,

Please clarify what you mean by the above. [/QUOTE]
Please state your question with more precision and clarity because I see no reason to clarify the quoted sentence as its meaning is self evident.


P.S.
My nick is Protivpropaganda. I see the unauthorised abbreviation of my nick as a sign of disrespect from people who I do not know or had the pleasure of communication with in the past.

We are Macedonians. We do not change people's names without their consent unless we have a wish to insult or belittle them.

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MK what's your connection with the makedonska kafana website??

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Owner of the website

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8AfdfVStls]YouTube - Makedonska Kafana[/url]

[QUOTE=protivpropaganda;82689]Please state your question with more precision and clarity because I see no reason to clarify the quoted sentence as its meaning is self evident.
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You wrote the following:
[QUOTE]And last but not least [B]we do not have a puppet Macedonian diaspora but individuals who work for the interests of others[/B].[/QUOTE]
I see a reason to clarify, that is why I asked you. What is a puppet Diaspora? Who is working for the interests of others?
[QUOTE]My nick is Protivpropaganda. I see the unauthorised abbreviation of my nick as a sign of disrespect from people who I do not know or had the pleasure of communication with in the past.

We are Macedonians. We do not change people's names without their consent unless we have a wish to insult or belittle them.[/QUOTE]
Oh please, spare me the drama scene, PP is an acronym like RoM is for Republic of Macedonia, like SoM is for Soldier of Macedon. There was no disrespect or insult intended, you know that already, so stop behaving like a 5 year old.

Has the Interim Accord been rejected in the hearts and minds of the Macedonian people
 

Has the Interim Accord been rejected in the hearts and minds of the Macedonian people?

A reasonable question in my opinion and worthy of discussion. We have looked at the Interim Accord in the past and realise how degrading it was and continues to be for Macedonians. If we (briefly) set aside any discussions about purported legalities of this "agreement", I am concerned that Macedonians accept it as a necessary fact of life that individual Macedonians (and as a collective) are condemned to suffer with for eternity.

The Albanians took up arms when no one was shooting or killing them.
With the Albanians facing defeat the usa threatened to bomb RoM to stop and then introduced the Framework Agreement.
Anyone would call being threatened to be bombed duress.
Any court recognises anything signed under duress as invalid.
The Framework Agreement is therefore invalid.
Having started as a result of Albanians taking up arms when no one was killing them one can only liken it to an armed robber taking goods from a store at gun point and then the police pointing a gun at the store owner for drawing his gun and expecting the store owner to sign over ownership of the goods.
Its that simple.