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Rogi 03-23-2010 01:17 AM

Prolet, if you were planning a coup d'état, you wouldn't announce it publicly.

He is a non-factor, he is irrelevant, and he has discredited himself into oblivion by showing his true treacherous colours when he advocated for a name change.

He has less than 30,000 supporters (and dropping) these days (down from 145,000 or so that he had in April last year when he ran for President).



In any case, if his calls for a coup d'état are more than an attempt to become relevant again by becoming a media whore, if indeed he has such plans, then it can be argued to amount to high treason.



High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's monarch or country. Participating in a war against one's country, attempting to overthrow its government....

Vangelovski 03-23-2010 01:21 AM

[quote=Rogi;43717]Prolet, if you were planning a coup d'état, you wouldn't announce it publicly.

In any case, if his calls for a coup d'état are more than an attempt to become relevant again by becoming a media whore, if indeed he has such plans, then it can be argued to amount to high treason.



High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's monarch or country. Participating in a war against one's country, attempting to overthrow its government....[/quote]

Rogi,

You're treading a fine line...what about a revolution? Thats an overthrow of a government and has historically been viewed (by the government being overthrown) as treason :)

Rogi 03-23-2010 01:29 AM

I wasn't finished posting/editing when you quoted my post :(

There are different types of revolutions. A cultural revolution, an industrial revolution, so which one are you saying is treason? :)

In any case, jokes aside, it is true, a revolution in the sense that you meant is treason.

But when it is supported by the majority of the people, that's where there is a difference (albeit, not in the legal sense).

That's the opposite of what Boskovski has, the majority are against him.

Prolet 03-23-2010 02:12 AM

Rogi, I see what you mean

Ljube;s camp is saying that Grujo is purposely doing this because they were surprised at how many people voted for him in the Presidential Elections so they use the Johan Tarculovski case to turn the people against him.

Rogi 03-23-2010 02:34 AM

Boskovski killed himself and the way he will go down in history, when he became a traitor, advocating for a name change.
Now he is an irrelevant waste of space.

sf. 03-23-2010 03:20 AM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;43700]It says that Gruevski accepts "North" as megjunarodno but for bilateral relations as Republic of Macedonia? Who wrote this garbage?[/QUOTE]

I think it means that each country has an option to recognise Macedonia under this name. No different than the situation now. Don't confuse this with a bilateral agreement with Greece.

I doubt the accuracy of the article though.

osiris 03-23-2010 03:54 AM

it sounds like the opposite to what i think he would accept.

maybe it was meant to read rep of makedonia for international use and nth mak for greece.

Vangelovski 03-23-2010 04:49 AM

I know a lot of the members on this forum trust Gruevski on the name issue - though I'm not sure why?

Phoenix 03-23-2010 05:06 AM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;43778]I know a lot of the members on this forum trust Gruevski on the name issue - though I'm not sure why?[/QUOTE]

How much trust can you put in the hands of a politician...?

I'm clinging to the belief that this decision goes beyond any measure of what could be considered 'normal politics', this is a decision that will ultimately change the history of the Macedonian people with possible implications to historical and cultural ties and it could finally sever all relationships with our kin throughout the diaspora.

A decision to persue this path is an immense burden on any man, a decision that will equate to outright treachery and the trade of our identity, I can't believe that any man in Macedonia will willingly place his neck on the chopping block like this...

julie 03-23-2010 05:08 AM

high treason


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