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Pelister 06-14-2010 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;59556]In all seriousness, where the F*CK is the "[B]Greek province of Macedonia[/B]"?????

Please show it to me.[/QUOTE]

The first casualty of these negotiations is the truth.

The fact is that the Macedonian leadership (Gruevski and Co.) have been undermining their own history, undermining the suffering and sacrifices of hundreds of thousands of Macedonians (many who are still alive), by failing to stand up to the presuppositions and assumptions that the New Greeks have brought to the table. Its been one tiny compromise after another with these morons. I've said it before the New Greeks are revelling in it. I am certain that they did not think they could be so lucky as to have the Macedonian leadership engage such a deadly process. In an instant a entire century of oppression had been sidelined - And for what? A club membership? We are being sold out, bit by bit, step by step, every day this goes on.

Prolet 06-14-2010 09:11 PM

777Bitola, Just so there is no confusion next time post the url page so we know where the source comes from.

Prolet 06-14-2010 09:18 PM

Onur, Why is the EU so affraid of Turkey joining the EU? Turkey has been a member of the oldest European Organization the Council of Europe which Macedonia is currently the rotating President so why is it a problem if Turkey joins the EU?

Rogi 06-14-2010 09:31 PM

This is bullshit. The article is not worth posting nor reading.

It is the hundredth of its' kind by the same Greek media outlets, in the last 3 years alone.

Risto the Great 06-14-2010 09:43 PM

This one (Vardar) made it to the Greek television news as well.

Prolet 06-14-2010 09:48 PM

Risto, In a recent poll in Stari Kraj only 9% of the people there said they would accept Vardarska Makedonija should we be forced to change our name so i wouldnt wary about it.

Onur 06-14-2010 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=Prolet;59590]Onur, Why is the EU so affraid of Turkey joining the EU? Turkey has been a member of the oldest European Organization the Council of Europe which Macedonia is currently the rotating President so why is it a problem if Turkey joins the EU?[/QUOTE]

Turkey signed several agreements with them at the first days of the union at 1960s and we are joining their meetings for 50 years. Did you know that they invited us to be full member of them at 1970s? They were only an economical union of commerce at that time but our lefty government refused to join them by saying that European goods can invade Turkish market and could damage our own industry.

Then we tried to be the member again at 1990s, after they became EU but this time Greek vetoes started. They mainly don't want us because of our population. According to the laws of EU, you can have your representatives in the parliament depending on your country`s population. If they accepts Turkey, then Turkish parliamentarians will be the 2nd majority after Germans, outpacing French. Also they don't want to have a mainly muslim populated country in the EU.

I never supported EU since 1990s because to me, EU is just an union of western Europeans like Germans, French, Austrians and British. Other countries like Hungary, Greece, Bulgaria are just second, low degree members. EU is ruled by French, Germans and British. I agree to Nicholas Sarkozy on that, Turkey doesn't have a place in an union of western Europeans. Turkey can only settle with Balkan countries, Hungary and Italy but not with the real owners of the EU, Germans and French.

Buktop 06-15-2010 01:50 AM

[QUOTE=julie;59500]LMAO, if you are Batman is Meto the boy wonder?
seriously Buktop, I would like your opinion on some issues
1. Do you support the negotiations of our name
2. Are you on the UMD board
3. are you in support of the Accord?
4. Are you Macedonian


1. No, but see them as more of a diversionary tactic rather than actual negotiations.

2. No

3. No

4. Yes


Buktop 06-15-2010 01:55 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;59502]Is that when Meto moves from the bedroom to the bathroom?[/quote] You may be right, it could have been a bowel movement :biggrin:

[quote]I cannot make a distinction Buktop.

Seriously, why the scare mongering with the consequences of straying from compliance?[/QUOTE]you may call it scare mongering, but I call it strategic planning. I believe in a free and prosperous Macedonia, but I believe that we can avoid future turmoil, and prevent harm to our country and our people by preparing now. Patience is a virtue my friend.

Buktop 06-15-2010 01:56 AM

OziMak, brilliant post!!! Loved every word.

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