[QUOTE=Volk;38461]
Lets get one thing straight right now, the "framework Agreement" is a piece of paper to shut up the albanians for a while, make them go quite for the time being. [/QUOTE]
A stern bit of advice to Macedonia from the UN would be a "piece of paper" Volk. Anything that amends the constitution of the country at the expense of Macedonians is hardly a piece of paper. It represents an erosion of sovereignty and is fundamentally abhorrent.

[QUOTE=Serdarot;38452]i will express my opinion about the Delchev comparation...

The Macedonian is hoping for a new leader, new Voj-voda(c).

We need new Delchev. After 20 years Republic of Macedonia, and 65 years independant Macedonian State, the humiliations and insults are not stoping.

So who can throw the first stone @ the uncle? :)
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I personaly dont see in UMD komitas, not even to speak about Voj-voda.

The self-proclaimed Board of Directors of the Macedonian Diaspora have before all, ask US, Macedonians, what are our goals.

If they think they can fight for those goals, and if WE think they are able to do that, they can be called representatives of the Emigration/Diaspora.

NOT before the Macedonians are asked.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Александар Митрески

Почитуван Претседателе,

[B]Вие сте Претседател и сигурно знаете како да ги извршувате своите задачи, мудро да преговарате и да постигнете сe што е во најдобар интерес за Македонија.[/B] Искрено, јас се надевам дека вашите намери се такви. Вашите зборови, сепак, понекогаш влеваат сомнеж околу вашиот патриотизам... [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]Го подржувам вашиот мировен план и мислам дека е многу солиден.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR="Navy"]Сепак, тој план би се остварил само доколку се наоѓавме некаде на Запад, (Америка) и ако Албанците беа народ со барем малку образование и смисла за размислување.[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]Затоа апелирам, оставете го [B]Љубе Бошковски[/B] да помогне при чистењето на Македонија.[/COLOR] [B]Оставете го да ја одбрани македонската држава од ова зло што ни се случува. [/B]Оставете го да им дозволи на Македонците да ја бранат својата држава. Можеби ќе има жртви, но сепак сите ќе знаат дека тие жртви загинале за одбрана на македонската држава, а не од кукавици кои се кријат во грмушки и пукаат по конвои со храна.

Претседателе, вашиот план моментално е во застој. Албанците купуваат време, со цел Америка и Европа се повеќе да се вклучат во нашиот проблем. Многу добро знаете каква е судбината на Македонија доколку се случи тоа. Ќе имаме нов Дејтон или Рамбуе, каде што судбината ќе ни ја кројат некои други "умни" глави. Тоа не смее да се дозволи. Вие ќе бидете виновен доколку Македонија биде ставена пред таков чин. Доколку вие сте немоќен да ги издржите притисоците однадвор (странските политичари) - поднесете оставка. Јас не го барам тоа од вас знаејќи дека Македонија ќе падне во поголема криза, но - сепак - во никој случај не смеете да дозволите Македонија да пропадне...

Дозволувате Џафери и Имери да си поигруваат со вас и да ви поставуваат услови. [COLOR="Red"]Понекогаш вашата присебност и разумното размислување, како и стравот да не ја вовлечете Македонија во војна, се за поздравување.[/COLOR] Но мислам дека заборавате дека Македонија е веќе во војна,[SIZE="4"] голем број македонски села се [COLOR="Red"]под [B]шиптарска[/B] команда [/COLOR]и, она што најмногу ме заплашува, вестите велата дека тој број постојано се зголемува..[/SIZE].

Дозволете им на македонските сили за безбедност да ги вратат под своја контрола окупираните делови на татковината. Дозволете им на Македонците да си го повратат своето достоинство, суверенитетот и гордоста. Дозволете ни повторно да ја имаме Македонија, зошто ние немаме друга држава. Македонија е се што имаме.

Александар Митрески
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[url]http://www.popovashapka.com/Pismo%20od%20Alek%20do%20Trajkovski.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Shto mislite na gore napisanoto od sega glavniot trgach na koncite vo Umdovia? Jas mislam togash, kako i denes, zamagleno gi gledal neshtata. :-)

[QUOTE=osiris;38470]sadly metos reception by our community is more a reflection of the desperatin and wishfull thinking that exists within some sections of our community, rather than his qualities or the umds contribution to the cause so far.[/QUOTE]

This is the bit. Thinking Macedonians cannot be satiated by the fact that the impression of any work being done is "good enough". Whilst many are so eager to suggest the perceived negativity is a Makedonska Rabota ... I would suggest this is the first time in Macedonia's history that collective groups of like minded individuals are formulating strategies for the Macedonians and the Macedonian Cause from all around the world in such an immediate fashion. This collective thought is being harnessed every day. This is hardly a typical Makedonska Rabota ... it is something very very new and has the most potential to make an impact where nothing has before.

[QUOTE]I think the issue has been UMD's defence of these anti-Macedonian processes.[/QUOTE]

This is absolutely false from what I have seen, you are confusing good PR with defending. UMD has stated that Macedonia has done all the IC has put forward, hence deserves to be rewarded. And why shouldn't it? No other country in the world has given its minority the rights Macedonia has and since its done it should be used to our advantage.

[QUOTE]
At the meeting I attended, no-one was aware that the President of UMD (Or Meto Koloski) was calling for a name change. Most Macedonians are not aware of this.[/QUOTE]

I do not agree with you... At the forum Meto stated 5 times UMD does NOT support any name change whatsoever....

[QUOTE]Anything that amends the constitution of the country at the expense of Macedonians is hardly a piece of paper.[/QUOTE]

I know what it is Risto and its implications, however at the end of the day it is a piece of paper... However I think you've either missed my point or ignored it.

[QUOTE=Volk;38477]This is absolutely false from what I have seen, you are confusing good PR with defending. UMD has stated that Macedonia has done all the IC has put forward, hence deserves to be rewarded. And why shouldn't it? No other country in the world has given its minority the rights Macedonia has and since its done it should be used to our advantage. [/quote]

UMD statements are CLEAR. They have been produced and reproduced many times. I can't help it if you chose to be ignorant of them or simply don't read them.

[quote=Volk] I do not agree with you... At the forum Meto stated 5 times UMD does NOT support any name change whatsoever.... [/quote]

And yet at the Canberra/Queanbeyan meeting, Meto deflected my question by saying that [I]He personally wanted a name change[/I] and that it was not the position of UMD. Yet, how do you explain his use of the plural "We..." in the statements. He is referring to UMD.

This is ofcourse raising the possibility that what UMD have been saying in press statements over the years, wasn't really the truth, and that he is actually telling the truth now. Meto once said if I ever call for a name change I will resign.

[QUOTE="Volk"]I do not agree with you... At the forum Meto stated 5 times UMD does NOT support any name change whatsoever....[/QUOTE]
Yep, and at the Adelaide forum Meto again advocated for the 'democratic' prefix as "not that bad" (or something to that effect) when responding to Risto the Great.

What concerns me most, is the fact that hardly any (if any at all) UMD supporters have dared to criticise Meto's clique and their irresponsible statements. You included Volk. You guys simply don't see anything fundamentally wrong with their past actions, and this is even more concerning. I am rather tired of reading the same old excuse of "I try and focus on the good and not the bad, bla, bla, bla", nice work, close your eyes to the bad and pretend it never happened (!), Meto will even help you by denying what he said, despite the fact that it has been recorded on print and camera.

[QUOTE=Volk;38477]I know what it is Risto and its implications, however at the end of the day it is a piece of paper... However I think you've either missed my point or ignored it.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, if you take the constitution of a country as a "rule-book" for the country, then the rules have just been changed at the Macedonian's expense. I honestly think you might have missed [I]your [/I]point about this. It is so bad that i cannot begin to express how bad it is.

I will have a go at it... it is like your own country has become your own worst enemy.

Some pieces of paper have more bite than others. In this case, I have heard enough Jaws themes thinking about it to last a lifetime.

Risto, you did miss my point here it is again:

So instead of kicking and screaming no framework agreement no interim accord, trying to find strategies around the blocks that are holding us back is much more productive and also much harder.

[QUOTE]What concerns me most, is the fact that hardly any (if any at all) UMD supporters have dared to criticise Meto's clique and their irresponsible statements.[/QUOTE]

There have been some items that have been wrong, however that does not constitute a need to destroy the UMD, only keep it in check.

[quote=Volk;38487]So instead of kicking and screaming no framework agreement no interim accord, trying to find strategies around the blocks that are holding us back is much more productive and also much harder.[/quote]

?????????????????????????

[QUOTE=Volk;38491]There have been some items that have been wrong, however that does not constitute a need to destroy the UMD, only keep it in check.[/QUOTE]
Yet you don't wish to highlight what these are, because, it would appear that items such as a 'democratic' prefix being "not that bad" isn't really a concern for you. Correct?

How are we to keep the UMD in check when they refuse to acknowledge their errors, when they provide multiple versions of what 'really' happened? If they can't be honest with themselves how are they going to be honest with the Diaspora?

This is what i'm seeing; (bad) the UMD advocated a name change, but (good) the UMD initiated a fundraiser for Macedonians in need, (good) the UMD supported an educational initiative for young Macedonians............."I don't want to dwell on the bad, everybody makes mistakes, let's focus on the good......." Give me a break.

[QUOTE]"I don't want to dwell on the bad, everybody makes mistakes, let's focus on the good......." Give me a break.[/QUOTE]

SOM, dont put word in my mouth, I have never said this nor do I agree with the logic behind it. Mistakes need to be highlighted and criticized... then things need to move forwards, not dwelt on for 4 years.

[QUOTE]it would appear that items such as a 'democratic' prefix being "not that bad" isn't really a concern for you. Correct?[/QUOTE]

why are you still dwelling on this? Its not realistic, its not an option, there is no point to waste more time on it...

Do you think the Macedonian cause is better of with or without UMD?

Tom, please check the previous page for the complete post as I am interested in your response as well.

[quote=Volk;38502]Tom, please check the previous page for the complete post as I am interested in your response as well.[/quote]

I did, but I'm not sure what you mean. Please clarify.

[quote=Volk;38501]Mistakes need to be highlighted and criticized...[/quote]

AND addressed/fixed, not just swept under the carpet.

[QUOTE=Volk;38501]SOM, dont put word in my mouth, I have never said this nor do I agree with the logic behind it. Mistakes need to be highlighted and criticized... then things need to move forwards, not dwelt on for 4 years.



why are you still dwelling on this? Its not realistic, its not an option, there is no point to waste more time on it...

Do you think the Macedonian cause is better of with or without UMD?[/QUOTE]
4 years? Are you purposefully refusing to watch the clip that Risto the Great put up, or have you watched it and are purposefully refusing to acknowledge what Meto said?

Are you able to force yourself to construct at least one criticism of the UMD?

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;38507]AND addressed/fixed, not just swept under the carpet.[/QUOTE]
[B]Exactly the point.[/B]

[QUOTE]I did, but I'm not sure what you mean. Please clarify.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]What does that exactly has the framework agreement and interim accord have to do with UMD? They did not create those accords... You treat them as if they where the government of Macedonia... yet you pour more scorn on them, then the actual government, which is responsible for each...

What exactly do you want the UMD to do about these agreements and accords?? lobby against them? come out publicly against them?

"framework Agreement" is a piece of paper to shut up the albanians for a while, make them go quite for the time being. It does not solve our problem with them, only buys us some time.

They will want a greater Albania, the government sees NATO and the EU as an escape they will prevent a war with them.

Going back and renouncing the framework agreement will undoubtedly result in war, Macedonia is now surrounded by NATO countries, meaning weapon sanctions (as occurred in the last conflict) translate into not 1 bullet entering the country. We dont have stockpiles of weapons (I dont understand why) this is how our arm was twisted in 2001 to capitulate. So unless we are prepared for a war, we cannot win one.

So instead of kicking and screaming no framework agreement no interim accord, trying to find strategies around the blocks that are holding us back is much more productive and also much harder.[/QUOTE]

My point of the above post was to stimulate thinking on how to bypass the road blocks that hold us back from escaping from the Interim Accord and Framework agreement.

Also try to understand what you expect the UMD to do about these agreements since you are so critical of them for supporting them, which I disagree with.

SOM I was there and heard what Meto said...

[QUOTE]Are you able to force yourself to construct at least one criticism of the UMD?[/QUOTE]

I do not need to force anything... I think several comments made in regards to the Macedonian encyclopedia where quite appalling... there are some others... I think the democratic thing has been blown way out of proportion, it is no longer relevant.

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Lets try a third time :

Do you think the Macedonian cause is better off with or without UMD? It is becoming apparent why do refuse to answer the question...

Again, you talk about 4 years ago, about irrelevance, yet only a few days ago Meto was defending his stance on the 'democratic' prefix. Of course to UMD supporters such as yourself, this is being 'blown out of proportion', whereas I think the lack of clinical responses by the UMD is the reason why people are still asking the same questions from months ago (and still waiting for answers), hence the reason why to some such as yourself it appears to be 'blown out of proportion'.

What's becoming apparent? You are making assumptions on my behalf now Volk? The Macedonian Cause is better off with the UMD, but not in its current role, I have already stated this in the past. I don't believe they should have influence in the areas concerning our identity and integrity as a nation, because history has shown that they are prepared to compromise, to some degree or another.

[quote=Volk;38516]My point of the above post was to stimulate thinking on how to bypass the road blocks that hold us back from escaping from the Interim Accord and Framework agreement.

Also try to understand what you expect the UMD to do about these agreements since you are so critical of them for supporting them, which I disagree with.[/quote]

Bypass? You mean ignore until they completely destroy our country?

These agreements are two of the most important issues facing the Macedonian people today. They need to be dealt with- not ignored.

I would like UMD to call on the Government to declare them null and void - like all other Australian Macedonian organisations have done.

I think it was more explaining then defending...

That's fair enough SOM, I dont necessarily completely agree with you though...

I am assuming you did not talk to Meto on his visit? I think maybe you should have, not to see that he is a 'good bloke' but for a chance to better understand him...

Volk, is he going to explain it to me differently to the way he did with Risto? Why doesn't he help everybody better understand him by being clinical and forward with his responses and statements at a place like this, where thousands are reading rather than just dozens or a couple hundred?

I mean come on, in Adelaide he is waving his finger around saying that he doesn't frequent 'forums', yet he is here with the psuedonym UMDiaspora.org doing exactly that. I am not accustomed to somebody speaking to me like I am some ignorant peasant, thinking that, all that needs to be done is take each of the 'rowdy' guys to the side and throw em' some sugar so they can ease up. I consider that an insult, anything he is prepared to say to me he should be prepared to say to the next Macedonian.

[QUOTE]I would like UMD to call on the Government to declare them null and void[/QUOTE]

Okay that's the easiest part, what about the hard parts? Dealing with repercussions, preparing for war, isolation ( we are surrounded by NATO members now), possibility of economic blockades... Every scenario must be explored and prepared for before this happens... Timing has a great deal to do with it. Certain processes have started to ween economic dependence from greece...

This was the point of my post, it is much harder to come up with strategies that give us the opportunity to escape from the shackles placed on us (in great part by ourselves) than to simply call on the abolishment of accord, agreement.

SOM, I understand your point of view but I think talking to him one on one would have given you much more insight... I think a lot of us let our ego's get in the way, particularly here on the MTO forum.

[QUOTE="Volk"].......talking to him one on one would have given you much more insight[/QUOTE]
What sort of insight? Can you explain it to me? It all seems to be leading back to the 'good bloke' syndrome.

I don't think so Volk, perhaps you would like to elaborate with some examples of how my 'ego' has got in the way of Meto being true to himself and the Macedonian people? You know for a fact that I had no issues with the UMD until relatively recently - mind you, it would have been much earlier had I chosen to delve into the matter a little more. I am glad I did.

Are you also one of the people at the MTO who has allowed his ego to get the better of him? Better yet, do any of the UMD supporters fall in this 'ego' category, or only those that choose to question the status quo?

Volk, your scaremongering would be more effective if you could define exactly what you mean by the buzz words you use and actually provide some reasoning/evidence as to why you believe these "scenarios" could eventuate - "war", "isolation", "reprecussions", "economic blockades".

These are the same Gligorovist buzz words that scared the Macedonian people into these agreements in the first place. Repeating them whenever anyone calls for an end to these unjust, terrorist appeasing agreements only serves to keep them in place.

[QUOTE]I don't think so Volk, perhaps you would like to elaborate with some examples of how my 'ego' has got in the way of Meto being true to himself and the Macedonian people?[/QUOTE]

I was not implying that SOM... Just making an observation about peoples egos on the forum.. And this is quite evident from the tone of some peoples posts.

[QUOTE]Are you also one of the people at the MTO who has allowed his ego to get the better of him? Better yet, do any of the UMD supporters fall in this 'ego' category, or only those that choose to question the status quo?[/QUOTE]

I am sure they do fall into that category ( i dont keep a list as to peoples egos), I do not distinguish between UMD supporters and others, I base my responses and opinions based on peoples views and the way they express them.

Which status quo are you referring to?

[QUOTE]your scaremongering[/QUOTE]

It's easy to avoid the hard questions and turn this on me and my 'scaremongering'. Is it 'scaremongering' to actually prepare for the worst, so it can be dealt with ? You seem to be under the impression Macedonia is a Superpower...

SOM, It was an awesome speech im telling you, since i was impressed it was very good.

[QUOTE]Гостинот од Америка г-дин Мето Колоски имаше срдечен пречек во Престон Македонија Социјалниот Клуб во Резерво каде пред околу 350 гости зборуваше за неговата посета и активностите кој ги има до сега остварено и превземено Македонската Обединета Дијаспора .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Многу мина се` воодушевија од тоа што го слушнаа од Мето Колоски и за рекордно време му остана добар впечаток и многумина од гостите си зедоа за право јавно да коментираат и да го споредат и со Македонскиот великан - Гоце Делчев.[/QUOTE]

SOM, Do you see what i mean??

Rogi, It says 350 i didnt count everybody.

People were fighting to get their photo taken with Meto, even the girls there.

Risto, It seems more to me that the person sitting next to Metodija did their best to stop you from getting your answer in Adelaide, Meto answered every question here and he gave everybody a chance to ask their questions.

Osiris, Ljubco Georgievski talked about patriotic lies, Metodija gave a true speech about bringing our Diaspora forward. He gave that feeling that our people have been lacking for years, if i wasnt impressed before im definitely impressed now. Im not talking about blind trust here, im talking about giving Meto an opportunity to do what he has and time will tell if he is right. Meto is not the Prime Minister of Macedonia however the lobbying is extremely important for us.

From what i was told, one businessman offered to give the UMD an office space free of charge in Melbourne. UMD are looking to open up an office in Canberra, he never said that he wants to take over any organization he said he just wants to work with them, he also gave tribute to the past people who have worked so hard for our communities. Like i mentioned earlier there were people who were skeptical and thats perfectly normal im skeptical myself in some things however its great that we can move forward and do what is right for Macedonia.

Volk, seeing as you brought up these "scenario's" that we need to "prepare" for, how about you define what exactly what you mean by those buzz words, think about how they were used originally to force the Macedonian people into those agreements when they could have been avoided and provide evidence-based reasons as to why you believe these "scenarios" now preclude us from making any attempts to free ourselves from the Interim Accord and Framework Agreement:

1. war
2. isolation
3. reprecussions
4. economic blockades

Doing this excercise may change your views about some of these "scenario's".

Vangelovski, Metodija was asked if it was true that he supported a name change, (Severna Makedonija) and he said thats not true. The Interim Accord was not asked from what i can remember however questions about MPO were asked, questions about the Torbeshi which were never asked before, questions are the Albanian demands in Macedonia,Matthew Nemetz,Phillip Reeker you name it like i said a good 45 minutes of questions were asked.

Vangelovski, What are your thoughts of the UMD opening up an office in Canberra to directly tackle the name issue with Stari Kraj? Do you see that as a positive step in order to pursue our fight into gaining name recognition?? I think this is exactly what we need to be honest.

Pelister, Even you claimed to be impressed but not fully convinced, i dont think even Meto can be convinced before the job is done. He didnt promise brda and planini, he said he working for the Macedonian cause here, he said when the UMD first started they had 2 US Senators on their side, now they have 15 can you see the difference? You know that this is good for us, we must unite and clean up our backyard first then we can fully prepare for battle. Nobody said its going to be easy but we dont have any other choice, we need hope for our community. We cannot be standing still any longer we need to move and we need to move quickly.

Lets play your little game...

1. Framework Agreement was used to stop the conflict in 2001, so in terms it was in a way a peace treaty. What happens when you abolish a peace treaty? war... The albanians will say look we have tried everything, we cannot live with these people we want to join albania... Remember the 'disarmament' was a farce...

The agreement was made under massive IC pressure, even threats to bomb MK. It also included an arms embargo.

2. isolation, what is an arms embargo? NATO and EU membership are tied with both agreements, renouncing them immediately will result in Macedonia being surrounded by NATO and EU countries with no access to a port.

3. reprecussions these are point 1, 2, 4

4. economic blockades- this was done in the past by greece and cannot be ruled this time.

Maybe you can answer why Macedonia can renounce both agreements simultaneously and avoid the above...?

Prolet, while UMD supports anti-Macedonian, terrorist appeasing agreements and has a Board that flip-flops over the name, I don't think UMD should be "tackling" anything other than charity fundraisers, which to-date have been its only activities which I can commend.

[quote=Volk;38547]Lets play your little game...

1. Framework Agreement was used to stop the conflict in 2001, so in terms it was in a way a peace treaty. What happens when you abolish a peace treaty? war... The albanians will say look we have tried everything, we cannot live with these people we want to join albania... Remember the 'disarmament' was a farce...

The agreement was made under massive IC pressure, even threats to bomb MK. It also included an arms embargo.

2. isolation, what is an arms embargo? NATO and EU membership are tied with both agreements, renouncing them immediately will result in Macedonia being surrounded by NATO and EU countries with no access to a port.

3. reprecussions these are point 1, 2, 4

4. economic blockades- this was done in the past by greece and cannot be ruled this time.

Maybe you can answer why Macedonia can renounce both agreements simultaneously and avoid the above...?[/quote]

[COLOR=#390002][FONT=Verdana]Volk, that was the fastest, "ill-reasoned", "non-evidence-based" answer I've ever seen. You managed to ignore my entire question and my request for a well-reasoned, evidence-based answer, taking into account past failures and flawed assumptions. This was mainly for your benefit, to help you move away from your support of the status-quo, but I don't think that will happen any time soon. There was a further purpose to my questioning of your "scenario's" and that was to get you thinking about the concepts of an "independent state" and the "responsibilities" essential to maintaining liberty.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Vangelovski, How do you suggest we tackle the name issue without a UMD office in Canberra? This is an extremely important issue for us here.

Prolet, did the world come into existence the day Meto stepped onto Australian soil?

Or, if that question is too hard, maybe you can tell us what UMD has done in relation to the name dispute?

You have been blinded by UMD's bullshit, Volk.

The Macedonians have many reasonable and sensible strategies on the table.

Negotiating our historical identity is not one of them. Its at the bottom of the list in the lunatic shitpile.

The first thing we need to do is completely reject the terms Greece has put to us for what they are. We should immediately stop legitimating the injustice of the Greek position, because someone told the Macedonians that being "Civilized" means acknowledging and accepting the other side of the story. It is the Macedonians who are spreading the lie that the Greeks have a legitimate claim and the Greeks have a legitimate grievance - by engaging these "terms" in the first place. The Macedonians have internationalized the Greek position. These Western "structures" rob us of everything - they rob us of our rights, of our culture and undermine our historical and moral claims to self-determination. The key point is that the Macedonians are in effect undermining themselves, but they have not caught on to the Greek sophistry and complex framework of this scheme - so that don't realize what they are doing to all of us.

There is this idea at UMD that if something is not recognzied by the West, it does not exist. Or an idea that you don't really exist until you have achieved political autonomy, or having achieved political autonomy that it somehow is not real if the West does not regard you as having a legitimate claim to nationhood.[1] Note that its all about the anti-Macedonian processes in the West - what the West thinks, what the West has set up. This is where UMD come into it as a "broker" to sell the Western position to the rest of us.

These are the ideas behind the current anti-Macedonian (Western structures and institutions.

[1] Meto had said to me that we were not a country before 1944

[QUOTE=Prolet;38550]Vangelovski, How do you suggest we tackle the name issue without a UMD office in Canberra? This is an extremely important issue for us here.[/QUOTE]Prolet, da te najdam nekoj bajachka mi se gleda snoshti Meto te pochude.

While you guys argue amongst youselves, there is a national and international campaign that is being led by a Greek MP, which is gathering huge momentum as we speak.