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Daskalot 09-07-2008 03:39 AM

[QUOTE=Truth Bearer;1134]That is incorrect Daskalot there is no such written language called "Romeika"......[/QUOTE]

So you are telling me that Constantin th Purple called his language not ROMEIKA(ROMAN) but something else.......

leonidas 09-07-2008 03:42 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;1130]The language was NOT CALLED GREEK, THEY THEMSELVES CALLED IT [B]ROMEIKA(ROMAN)[/B], so please do not use a modern term and try to transfer it into th past to claim the past in that way.[/QUOTE]
What kind of language was the "Romeika" ? Greek or Latin or something else (define it) ?

Daskalot 09-07-2008 03:45 AM

[QUOTE=leonidas;1136]What kind of language was the "Romeika" ? Greek or Latin or something else (define it) ?[/QUOTE]

a form of what we today call MODERN GREEK and with its correct name NEOELLENIKA.

Makedonia 09-07-2008 03:52 AM

It was an old form of the Greek language.

leonidas 09-07-2008 03:57 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;1137]a form of what we today call MODERN GREEK and with its correct name NEOELLENIKA.[/QUOTE]
So the language that spoken was Greek and as also the linguistics said "Byzantine Greek". Am I right ?

Truth Bearer 09-07-2008 05:49 AM

Daskalot no offence but yr over yr head here mate...Romeika isn't a language.

Truth Bearer 09-07-2008 05:54 AM

Ok lets see what we find here...

[B]Byzantine Greek language also known as Medieval Greek [/B]

Since as early as the Hellenistic era, Greek had been the lingua franca of the Eastern Mediterranean, spoken natively in the southern Balkans, the Greek islands, Asia Minor and the ancient and Hellenistic Greek colonies of Western Asia and Northern Africa. This continued after Roman expansion in the region. Latin was also introduced by Roman administration but nearly all significant literature was written in [B]Greek[/B]. After the reforms of Constantine the Great the ancient [B]Greek city of Byzantium [/B]became Constantinople and the [B]"Greek East"[/B] gradually evolved into a separate political and cultural entity, having [B]Greek as its main language[/B], while Latin was used as an official language of administration. However Latin had never been a spoken language in the East, and [B]it was gradually displaced by Greek in all sectors[/B]. The evolution from the Eastern Roman into the Byzantine Empire, properly speaking, starts with the reign of [B]Heraclius, when Greek replaced Latin completely in law and administration[/B]. At the same time the Empire lost most of its [B]non-Greek speaking territories [/B]in the near East and Africa, along with its second largest city, Alexandria.

The main vernacular language of the Eastern or Byzantine Empire had been Medieval Greek, spoken natively in Constantinople and the largest part of the empire. Spoken [B]Medieval Greek was an evolution of Koine Greek[/B], which was the popular language of the Hellenistic world, and an intermediary stage between ancient and Modern Greek. Written Greek varied considerably, embracing an archaising "high" style which imitated classical Attic, and a moderate "middle" style continuing the tradition of written Koine. Relatively few written specimens of the spoken or "low" variety of the vernacular language have been preserved. The resulting diglossia of the Greek-speaking world (which had already started in ancient Greece) [B]continued under Ottoman rule and persisted in the modern Greek state until 1976[/B] - although Atticist Greek remains the official language of the Greek Orthodox Church. As shown in the poems of Ptochoprodromos, an early stage of Modern Greek had already been shaped by the 12th century AD and possibly earlier. Vernacular Greek continued to be known as "Romaic" up until the 20th century.

Risto the Great 09-07-2008 06:00 AM

[QUOTE]popular language of the Hellenistic world[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that. If I was Greek I would read "They all was Grik" ... if I was human, I would say "Oh, much like English today, there was a language which many people knew but clearly gave no identification of ethnicity".
[QUOTE]Vernacular Greek continued to be known as "Romaic" up until the 20th century[/QUOTE]
I suppose you will apologise to Daskalot now.

Truth Bearer 09-07-2008 06:04 AM

RTG yr letting me down here mate read the proper sentence it say's VERNACULAR which means ORAL language never in writen form.......

Truth Bearer 09-07-2008 06:05 AM

Something like yr language before 1944........You opnly spoke it orally never in a written format.


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