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makedonin 12-05-2008 06:46 AM

they should stick it to their ***

Risto the Great 12-05-2008 02:37 PM

So NATO understands the only limiting factor is the name dispute.
What a joke.

Soldier of Macedon 12-05-2008 03:14 PM

Yet in the earlier days you would hear that the name dispute had nothing to do with Macedonia's entry into this moron-led organ of bananas, these days, despite our country being more ready than Albania and others to join Nato and the EU, we are hindered precisely because of this name game.

Venom 12-07-2008 06:55 AM

The German ambassador was on a tv program the other day on Macedonian television. She said something along the lines of "women change their names all the time, but they don't lose their identity."

Macedonia is a male then.

It's not just the name they are against. If it wasn't the name it'd be something else. They'd do anything to protect their little creation greece, and especially hide the atrocities committed by said creation that they let get away with.

They'd prefer we didn't exist, but the fact we do burns them, so they think if we change our name and everything they can pretend we don't.

After all, we're just a pawn in their game... you know the game, it's called "Attacking Russia to steal all their resources".

Dimko-piperkata 12-09-2008 04:54 AM

Kouchner: Name is condition for lifting visa requirements
 
[img]http://www.makfax.com.mk/cgi-bin/get_img?NrImage=2&NrArticle=134491[/img]
[quote]/09/12/ 09:15

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said the unresolved name dispute was clearly Macedonia's biggest problem as far as its EU accession process is concerned.

Kouchner told a press conference in Brussels that regardless of the progress toward the European Union or toward visa-free travel, Macedonia has to solve the name row with Greece, Alsat M TV said.

"The problem of Macedonia, it's the name. Frankly, you can ask me about visas and about progress toward the EU, as long as the name issue is solved, you are knocking at the wrong door. This problem must be solved," Kouchner said.

After all these years of UN-mediated negotiations between Greece and Macedonia, the situation seems today "very, very complicated for such a simple problem," he added.

EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn, on the other hand, said the next year's elections are crucial to the country's progress toward the European Union.

"There must be a visible progress in reforms regarding elections and judicial reform in the country, but at the same time, a lot of work should be done. Next year's elections will be a crucial test, as they must be free and fair and in line with the international standards," Commissioner Rehn said.[/quote]
[url]http://www.makfax.com.mk/look/novina/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=2&NrArticle=134491&NrIssue=841&NrSection=10[/url]

Pelister 12-11-2008 09:31 PM

But Macedonia is not Serbia.

And what we have with the United States "and" Turkey are more than just assurances.

My point was that Macedonia's territorial integrity and security does not depend on NATO membership.

osiris 12-12-2008 03:59 AM

i have said all along who gives a shit about the wanabbes, lets move on and forget their sorry asses. i dont give a damn what they want to call us, lets focus on the rest of the world, greece even at this point does not use our 'officially'' recognised name calling us skopians instead, and thats what they will do no matter what. but i think its time we started refferring them to nova grtsia in all official proclamations.
use their tactics cut this sensible understanding diplomatic stuff, with these balkan bullies.

Pelister 12-12-2008 11:11 PM

I agree.

I always said that the dispute is not legitimate. Greece does not have a legitimate claim to Macedonia.

The Macedonians need to end it now, and raise the Treaty of Bucharest if this is going to end.

Risto the Great 12-21-2008 03:48 AM

Hungary urges Macedonia, Greece to be pragmatic over name dispute
 
[url]http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-12/12/content_10491831.htm[/url]
[QUOTE] Hungary urges Macedonia, Greece to be pragmatic over name dispute


BUDAPEST, Dec. 11 (Xinhua) -- Hungary's President Laszlo Solyom urged Macedonia and Greece to take a pragmatic approach in their dispute over Macedonian state's name after meeting Macedonian president in Budapest on Thursday.

Solyom told at a joint press conference that the dispute should be confined to the name itself, and it could not touch the country's self-definition.

[B] How does a people name itself, how does a people express its identity and how does a people use its language, these are exclusively within the given people's domain, Solyom said.
[/B]
It is regrettable that the dispute over the name presents an obstacle to Macedonia's NATO membership, particularly when the international community considers the country to be fully prepared for the alliance in every other respect, Solyom said.

Solyom emphasized Hungary's commitment to supporting Macedonia in its integration process with NATO and the European Union.

Hungarian News Agency MTI quoted Macedonian President Branko Crvenkovski as saying that Macedonia's move to bring the name dispute issue before the International Court of Justice in the Hague in November would not obstruct further negotiations with Greece. Skopje is ready for a compromise on the issue as long as it does not affect the country's identity, he said.

The two presidents agreed that Hungary and Macedonia have high-level political relations, but the bilateral economic relations fall behind the outstanding political relations. Macedonian president said that the current volume of trade stood merely at an annual 70 million euros. [/QUOTE]

The Hungarians are telling the Macedonians that it is up to them. Meanwhile Crvenkopoulos is a 2 bit whore on the issue.

Soldier of Macedon 12-21-2008 04:01 AM

Not only is this impostor spreading his negativity and doomed opinions within Macedonia, he is also doing it in other countries too. His last day as PM could not come quicker, a few months left.


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