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Vangelovski 11-15-2010 03:22 AM

[quote=UMDiaspora.org;78110]UMD Launches Western Australian Operations and Appoints Dame Krcoski as Regional Representative

On 12 Nov. 2010, the United Macedonian Diaspora (UMD) reached an important milestone in its growth strategy in Australia by officially launching its operations in Western Australia with a reception appointing Dame Krcoski as its inaugural Regional Representative.

Read full press release at: [URL="http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/512/1/"][url]http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/512/1/[/url][/URL][/quote]

Poor kid. Meto, did you inform him of the high price (integrity) that holding a UMD title entails?

UMDiaspora.org 11-15-2010 11:18 AM

Hungarian-Americans Support Macedonia's NATO Membership
 
On Friday, November 12, 2010, the Hungarian American Coalition (HAC), the voice of 1.5 million Hungarian-Americans, sent a letter to President Obama calling for his clear support of Macedonia’s NATO membership. “Macedonia has by all standards been ready to join the Alliance, were it not for the unfortunate name-issue we all are too familiar with, which is an issue that should not impact its membership into NATO,” stated HAC President Maximilian N. Teleki in the HAC letter to President Obama.

[url]http://umdiaspora.org/content/view/513/1/[/url]

Risto the Great 11-15-2010 03:06 PM

Venezualan Australians support Macedonia's entry into NATO.
A guy told me last night.

He said he was the voice of all Venezualan Australians. Kind of like the UMD is for all Macedonians.

Vangelovski 11-15-2010 03:45 PM

Meto, its good that you are building ties with other community organisations (albiet, I doubt they represent each and every member of their community).

However, you still seem to be missing the point - Macedonia in NATO under the current circumstances means FYROM.

fyrOM 11-15-2010 04:11 PM

Dear UMD
In post 2485 I asked 3 questions the last two I consider critical. To date none have been answered.

The questions were asked on 11 Nov. If no answer is forthcoming in 10 days…to allow for weekend days…your silence will be considered that you concur the views in question by Meto are accurate and that you are in agreeance with those views.

The views in question unambiguously state that Macedonia should be prepared to change her name. Take note it does NOT say continue negotiations or any similar sentiments which to date have been explained as political doublespeak and not to be considered seriously as endorsing a change of name.

I consider the views expressed as traitorous.

I would strongly urge you to reply. If you fail to reply adequately I will consider you as traitors and cease to post on this thread or reply to your posts in any other threads. Further I can assure you I will make your views and my opinion of your views known to everyone I know and anyone I come into conversation with on Macedonian matters and make known to them where they can read them for themselves.

If you value your reputation you will provide a suitable reply in reasonable time.
Consider yourselves appropriately notified.

UMDiaspora.org 11-15-2010 04:18 PM

We have not seen those questions. Please e-mail [email][email protected][/email] to ensure a timely response from a member of UMD's Board of Directors.

fyrOM 11-15-2010 07:07 PM

I believe that these conversations should remain in public view so I will not email you anything.

In the first line of my post which you have just replied to I clearly state that my questions are in post 2485 implying they are in this thread…which they are. This is on page 249 of this thread.

I can understand that it is possible you may have missed my initial post and as you claim to have only just now become aware of it. In which case feel free to take another 10 days from this date within which to reply.

The last question is most important which I will rephrase here.

Will Meto clarify his statements or does he stand by them and if so does the UMD support him in this view.

I have included links for your convenience.

Please read
in this thread post 2485
[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2422&page=249[/url]

Macedonian Truth Forum > News and Politics > President Ivanov: 'Erga Omnes' doesn't work...
Post045
[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4688&page=5[/url]

Both of which refer to
Vangelovskis posts in
Macedonian Truth Forum > News and Politics > President Ivanov: 'Erga Omnes' doesn't work...
Post033
[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4688&page=4[/url]

Post030
[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4688&page=3[/url]

Post021
[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4688&page=3[/url]

It is one thing to know and say the political double speak and another to believe it. Going into the EU and NATO temporally as FYROM is one thing and can be argued in the affirmative but it is totally a different matter to agree with an article arguing the same but with the clear proviso RoM clearly indicates prior to such entry they will add a geographic qualifier once they have entered as FYROM. The government has never said they will do his and anyone taking this position is definitely overstepping anything anyone on the Macedonian side has said.

When I read the above posts my first thought was Meto must have misunderstood the article he calls a good article.

Then I though he seems too intelligent to misunderstand it maybe he just plain misread it…we all can misread something on a rare occasion. Then there were many posts by others following on the thread talking about it with no reply by him. I though could he have missed all of this.

Maybe he hasn’t read this thread…keeping up with information can be a challenge…so I posted my concerns on the UMD thread where it should catch your attention. Having had no reply I became concerned that he may have flipped his mind and started believing the political double speak.

I think we all need to be careful of what we say on this or any other forum as the internet has made information available to more people than ever and as you would well know information can sway minds and opinions.

When I received an email from someone I know who is not so politically concerned telling me he had found this great new web site called MTO I was immediately reminded of a documentary I had once watched on the great depression where one guy said he sold all his stocks immediately in one go just before the crash not because of some great insight but because in conversation the shoeshine boy started to give him stock tips. It’s the dumb mans rule. If the dumbest person starts talking about something then what does that imply about what the rest should know. It tells me a lot more people and type of people are reading the MTO than I first thought and hence the need to be careful of what is said on these forums.

Slip-ups and misunderstandings can happen but you cannot stay silent on them les you be seen to believe those views. Reputations matter.

Big Bad Sven 11-16-2010 12:02 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;78252]Venezualan Australians support Macedonia's entry into NATO.
A guy told me last night.

He said he was the voice of all Venezualan Australians. Kind of like the UMD is for all Macedonians.[/QUOTE]

Risto, whats the news on the alaskan-australians, do they support us :)

Maybe prolet can inform us on the political situation of the alaskans in australia and were they sit on the macedonian issue :)

It would be a great win for UMD if they can get the australian-alaskans on our side :)

julie 11-16-2010 12:31 AM

LMAO. Ozimak, they will not answer your questions on a public forum becuase that is open and honest and transparent. UMD is not those things. Nor have they answered any other questions asked of them from anyone on this forum, you are wasting your time. your assumptions are correct.

Makedonska_Kafana 11-16-2010 12:47 AM

[QUOTE=julie;78355]LMAO. Ozimak, they will not answer your questions on a public forum becuase that is open and honest and transparent. UMD is not those things. Nor have they answered any other questions asked of them from anyone on this forum, you are wasting your time. your assumptions are correct.[/QUOTE]
[quote="UMDiaspora.org"]This is absolutely false and completely taken out of context. No further comment.[/quote]
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