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Niko777 02-28-2018 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=Pelagonija;172199]Does anyone know what the turn out was like? Hundred? Thousands?[/QUOTE]

News websites like Kurir and Republika, which have been known in the past to exaggerate numbers from DPMNE rallies, reported 10,000.

Niko777 02-28-2018 04:18 PM

The statue of Alexander the Great was removed from the airport today. Unlike the statue in the main square, this one was actually labeled "Alexander the Great".

[IMG]https://www.slobodenpecat.mk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/28642810_10211610065831502_1009887960_o-1-640x471.jpg[/IMG]

Spirit 02-28-2018 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;172204]News websites like Kurir and Republika, which have been known in the past to exaggerate numbers from DPMNE rallies, reported 10,000.[/QUOTE]

Some sources say around 15000 like MINA but they have been pro DPMNE in the past

Solun 03-01-2018 02:26 AM

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;172198]I think you're completely missing my point. My point is that those people that are in jail are not in jail for resisting a name change. Its another Macedonian conspiracy theory.[/QUOTE]

OK if that is the point you are trying to make then agreed. Just don't put your bottom dollar on it not occurring in coming weeks.

Pelagonija 03-01-2018 03:06 AM

[QUOTE=Niko777;172204]News websites like Kurir and Republika, which have been known in the past to exaggerate numbers from DPMNE rallies, reported 10,000.[/QUOTE]

Sorry I was referring to the rally in Canberra..

Btw to those concerned the Greeks are getting upset in Melbourne

[url]http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/its-disgusting-ugly-racial-tensions-flare-in-melbourne-over-macedonia/news-story/3f6c12384b9606a05649bb6fd527e211[/url]

vicsinad 03-01-2018 06:35 AM

Here's some news in response to the Alexander the Great statue being taken down in Skopje's airport:

[URL="http://standard.mk/tvrdokorni-napadot-protiv-aleksandar-makedonski-pretstavuva-objavuvanje-na-vojna/"]http://standard.mk/tvrdokorni-napadot-protiv-aleksandar-makedonski-pretstavuva-objavuvanje-na-vojna/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Здружението „Тврдокорни“ најавува дека ќе го блокира скопскиот аеродром како реакција на отстранувањето на споменикот на „Александар Македонски“.

На „Фејсбук“, од организацијата не прецизираат кога ќе ги спроведат блокадите, но најавуваат дека тоа ќе се случи во следниот период.

Нападот против Александар Македонски е напад против целиот Македонски народ! Нападот против Александар Македонски претставува објавување на војна! А ова е војна која треба и мора да се добие, па дури и по цена на нашите животи!

Никогаш нема да им простиме на предавници, утре допрва доаѓа!

Борбата за МАКЕДОНИЈА допрва доаѓа!!!


[B]The attack against Alexander Macedonian is an attack against all Macedonian people! The attack against Alexander Macedonian is the publication of war! And this is a war that needs and must be obtained, and even at the cost of our lives! [/B][/QUOTE]

Gocka 03-01-2018 09:50 AM

I never put that much stock in tvrdo korni but right now they might be all we have and at least some of their priorities are in the right palce

Amphipolis 03-01-2018 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=Gocka;172183]
This probably isn't going to be the first time I've told you this either: Go Fuck yourself you plate smashing baboon.

First of all, you don't know if I vote or not.

Second, the issue is not their intervening powers which are ample should they choose to use them. The problem we have with them is the choices they make or do not make. Their understanding of or lack there of on certain issues. Their constant deferral of responsibility for the state of the country they live in.

Don't even begin to pretend that you care enough about our plight to really understand what exactly our issue is with.

For the life of me I can't understand how pathetic your life must be to waste time on a forum that is exclusively Macedonian discussing internal Macedonian issues.[/QUOTE]

1. I’m sorry, I can’t say I remember this, maybe you should use an avatar.

2. I DO know that most of you didn’t vote, because you’ve said it yourselves. The Ohrid example was certainly not referring to you (I hope you’re not an accountant); the only thing I remember about you is that (unlike what your info states) you don’t live in Ohrid.

3. I’m not sure I get this, or the diaspora superiority arguments. How are your compatriots different from the Americans or Canadians?

4. This is a universal topic and every individual feels frustration because things do not change the way he wants.

5. Actually I’m interested about (almost) everything (including internal issues) but the topics of the forum are far from internal. Most threads are about internal issues of… Greece.

Om3n 03-01-2018 07:07 PM

Hundreds of thousands of Greeks protested the use of the name Macedonia but what are they doing about the Middle Eastern squatters on the streets of Athens who are actually stealing their heritage by partaking in homosexual prostitution?

Tomche Makedonche 03-01-2018 07:57 PM

[url]http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonia-un-is-the-only-venue-for-name-talks-with-greece-02-28-2018[/url]

[B]UN Must Handle All 'Name' Proposals, Macedonia Says[/B]

Macedonia says all proposed solutions to the 'name' dispute must go exclusively through the UN Mediator – following reports that Greece may soon present a draft solution of its own

Following Greek media reports that Greece may soon issue its own proposed draft agreement for overcoming the dispute over Macedonia's name, the Macedonian government has said that all proposals must first pass through the appointed UN Mediator.

“Everything discussed between the [Macedonian and Greek foreign] ministers [Nikola] Dimitrov and [Nikos] Kotzias, everything that goes in the direction of bridging the gap and reaching an agreement, goes through the filter of the [UN] Mediator Matthew Nimetz,” Macedonian government spokesperson Mile Bosnjakovski said on Wednesday.

“Everything will be put on the table exclusively by him,” Bosnjakovski added.

Greek media cited unnamed sources earlier this week as saying that Kotzias might soon visit Macedonia and deliver a seven-point draft agreement for a name settlement. The Greek daily Kathimerini said the visit may take place by the end of this week.

Macedonia's foreign ministry on Wednesday confirmed the planned visit but said it still has no definitive confirmation of the timing of Kotzias’s arrival.

Meanwhile Macedonia’s Prime Minister, Zoran Zaev, in an interview for Reuters on Tuesday for the first time revealed four suggested compromise names for his country contained in Nimetz’s last set of ideas handed to both sides in January.

“The suggestions are: Republic of North Macedonia, Republic of Upper Macedonia, Republic of Vardar Macedonia and Republic of Macedonia (Skopje),” Zaev told Reuters, after attending the Western Balkans summit in London.

Zaev added that Greece might find at least one of these four options acceptable, which would hopefully close the decades-long dispute in the coming months, allowing Macedonia to join NATO and start EU accession talks this year.

The name dispute centres on Greece's insistence that use of the word Macedonia implies a territorial claim to the northern Greek province of the same name.

Athens insists that a new name must be found that makes a clear distinction between the Greek province and the country.

As a result of the unresolved dispute, in 2008, Greece blocked Macedonia’s NATO membership. It has also blocked the start of Macedonia’s EU accession talks, despite several positive annual reports from the European Commission on the country’s progress


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