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TrueMacedonian 01-17-2010 05:39 PM

The Goths in Macedonia
 
I wanted to create this topic for some time now. The Goths were such a powerful warrior people who have a history in the balkans, especially in Macedonia, that it is important to show their side in Macedonia's history because this is the history of our land.

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Goths living with Macedonians :001_huh: Strange but true.

The following text below is from the 6th century Roman bueraucrat/historian Jordanes (for more info on Jordanes see this - [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanes[/url]). This text is interesting;

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There's a few things to notice from Jordanes' text.

1) On page 30 he differentiates Macedonians from Greeks.
2) Page 33 is just an interesting read altogether about Philip marrying a Goth.
3) The Goth King Thiudimer dies in Macedonia and the new Goth King Theoderic is crowned in Macedonia. The Goths are given land in Macedonia by the Romans.

Bratot 01-17-2010 05:59 PM

Great subject that need much more attention. Very interesting.

TrueMacedonian 01-17-2010 08:58 PM

I agree Bratot. Their impact was enormous on the Roman empire. Macedonians need to recognize a part of this history and respect it.


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The following was from Count Marcellinus - [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcellinus_Comes[/url]

Soldier of Macedon 01-17-2010 09:11 PM

Here is a previous discussion concerning this topic:

[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=734&highlight=getae[/url]

Bratot 01-19-2010 08:55 AM

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There is more about the Goths and Macedonia in this book.

Bratot 01-19-2010 09:01 AM

And

Count Marcellinus and his chronicle
[url]http://books.google.pl/books?id=ep6U-meRt00C&pg=PA62&dq=Goths+in+Macedonia&ei=5rJVS8zzLJ38zQT7y7D_DQ&cd=5#v=onepage&q=Goths%20in%20Macedonia&f=false[/url]


The fall of Rome, and the rise of the new nationalities...
[url]http://books.google.pl/books?id=C8MpAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA280&dq=Goths+in+Macedonia&lr=&ei=GLtVS5rFA5eGzATo4d2BCw&cd=28#v=onepage&q=Goths%20in%20Macedonia&f=false[/url]

TrueMacedonian 01-19-2010 04:36 PM

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There is more about the Goths and Macedonia in this book.[/QUOTE]

That's a pretty good book Bratot. I'm gonna post some more info from it soon. Thanks for the post :macedonia

TrueMacedonian 01-19-2010 04:45 PM

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Plenty of info to absorb here. Hope we can add more and discuss this topic further.

Bratot 01-19-2010 08:12 PM

Great job TM!

osiris 01-19-2010 11:07 PM

correct me if i am wrong but wasnt there a dna study that shows nearly as much germanic as 'slavic' in macedonia.


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