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Liberator of Makedonija 07-29-2019 12:32 AM

Excerpt from the American 'Brownsville Daily Herald', published on 6th August 1902.


Risto the Great 07-29-2019 01:45 AM

I can't find Salesi on the map.

Liberator of Makedonija 07-29-2019 03:19 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;181430]I can't find Salesi on the map.[/QUOTE]

The name may have changed or the village could simply not exist anymore. Also very possible the name was just incorrectly recorded which isn't uncommon from foreign newspapers in regards to the Balkans at the time.

Liberator of Makedonija 07-29-2019 03:22 AM

Risto I found the village here under the new name of Avlonas. It was changed in 1927, a period in which the Greek government pursued a policy to Hellenise all the country's toponyms. The name 'Salesi' to me sounds like an Albanisation of a Romance word.


Risto the Great 07-29-2019 05:48 AM

Thanks mate. I also came across that village name on Google as soon as I searched for Salesi. So many skeletons in the closet of our Southern neighbours.

Carlin15 07-29-2019 08:18 PM


[I]Salesi[/I] is just one village, one example.

The whole of Attica was an Arvanite province. According to George Finlay (in 1861) [I]"Albanian colonists now occupy all Attica and Megaris, with the exception of the towns of Athens and Megara, where they form only a portion of the population."[/I] Furthermore, in the book "Greek Dress: From Ancient Times to the Early 20th Century" by Iōanna Papantōniou it says that [I]"...costume in Attica was therefore associated with the Arvanites..."[/I]

Also, a report from 1820 explicitly states that one third of Athens and much of Attica spoke Albanian. :biggrin: So many skeletons it is starting to look like Coco.

Carlin15 08-17-2019 08:45 AM



Carlin15 09-27-2019 07:16 PM

Dionysios Pyrros, Venice 1810


[SIZE="3"]"You may never want to call yourself Romaioi, but Hellenes, because the Romaioi, that is, the Romanoi, barbarized and made Greece ([I]their?[/I]) home. And if you have a new name that is Roman, Jewish, Russian, Arabic, [B]you must change it to a Hellenic name[/B], namely Miltiades, Themistocles, Achilles, Theseus, Alexander, Plato, Demosthenes, etc..."[/SIZE]

[Romaioi = Romanoi = Romans]

Carlin15 10-19-2019 10:08 PM

1) Armenian Mekhitarists built a monastery in the Peloponnese


"In 1700 Mekhitar went to Istanbul and began to gather disciples around him. Mechitar formally joined the Latin Church, and in 1701, with sixteen companions, he formed a religious institute of which he became the superior. They encountered the opposition of other Armenians and were [B]compelled to move to the Morea (Peloponnese)[/B], at that time Venetian territory, where [B]they built a monastery in 1706[/B]."



"THE ARMENIAN PRESENCE in the island goes back to 961, when the Byzantine Emperor of ARMENIAN descent, Nicephoros Phocas liberated Crete from the Arab conquerors. The deed was realized with the help of [B]thousand of soldiers of the Armeniacon Thema[/B], the military bases on the borders of Armenia. After completing the mission, [B]the Armenian soldiers made roots all over the island[/B], giving their native country's name to villages (Armeni, Armenokhori, Armenogeia), to summer places (Amari), to different sites (Armenocambos, Armenopetra). [B]Their influence was extended to the architecture, to the vocabulary, to the dress and the preference of black colour, to the boots and head cover[/B], even to some habits as the use of weapons during feasts, the artcraft of Armenian knifes, the vengeance."


Carlin15 11-03-2019 06:00 PM

Agia (Greek: Αγιά, also written Ayia) is a village and a municipality in the Larissa regional unit, Thessaly, Greece. [B][U]Agia is located east of Larissa and south of Melivoia[/U][/B]. The Mavrovouni mountains dominate the south and the Aegean Sea lies to the east.




[SIZE="3"][B]In the Ottoman census of the year 1455 of the Agia village[/B] there are last names like [COLOR="Red"][B]Servos ([I]one full name is recorded as [/I][I]'Ivanis Servos'[/I]), Slavos, Bratois, Kravanidis, Kraslavos, Gaikos, Suhias, Vuikos, Nenadas, Staikos, Stoviravos[/B][/COLOR] and others.

Also there are first names like [COLOR="red"][B]Ivanis, Dobros, Traikos, Milos, Vlados, Stoianos, Nenadas, Vetikos[/B][/COLOR], etc. [COLOR="red"][B]Widow Mila, widow Petrana, widow Vlasina, widow Dobrina[/B][/COLOR] and many more.

(There are also a few last names such as [I]Vlachos, Arvanitis, Moraitis, Muzakis[/I].)[/SIZE]

Some examples of full names:
- Dobros Moraitis
- Stoianos Moraitis
- Ivanis Servos
- Vetikos Servos
- Staikos Servos
- Magos Servos
- Staikos Dermanos
- Nikolas Arvanitis
- Nenadas Arvanitis
- Gazos Arvanitis
- Ginis Vlachos
- Traikos Leontaris
- Giorgos Zagorinos
- Purdanos Kraslavos
- Thodoros Velikas
- Vlados Vlasis
- Ginis Nenadas

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