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Tomche Makedonche 03-06-2019 06:36 PM

[url]https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/world/article/North-Macedonia-to-rename-state-funded-bodies-13667280.php[/url]

[B]North Macedonia to rename state-funded bodies, keep anthem[/B]

SKOPJE, North Macedonia (AP) — Newly renamed North Macedonia's government says 136 state-funded institutions will adjust their names in the next four months under a historic deal the country formerly known as Macedonia struck with neighboring Greece last year.

[U]But the national anthem will remain unchanged, retaining all references to Macedonia[/U], government spokesman Mile Boshnjakovski said Wednesday. [U]He told the Associated Press that it is part of the country's national heritage and culture, and is thus exempt from the deal.
[/U]
He said the country's state orchestra, TV and news agency will have the word "Macedonian" replaced by "National" in their names. But the Macedonian National Theater won't change, being a cultural institution.

Among the institutions to be renamed is the central bank, which will become the National Bank of the Republic of North Macedonia.

Risto the Great 03-06-2019 11:15 PM

The name of the country is part of Macedonia's national heritage and culture. Perhaps they can keep that as well.

Pelagonija 03-07-2019 05:32 AM

Wow.. I’m speechless. Soulless names for a soulless country.

Niko777 03-07-2019 08:00 PM

[B]MEANWHILE in GREECE...
[/B]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/HjcFI3t.jpg[/IMG]

[B]Photo taken [U]yesterday[/U] in Gorno Kleshtino, Lerinsko
[/B]

Risto the Great 03-08-2019 01:48 AM

They call it Yugoslavia thatta way and Florina thissa way.

Meanwhile Dumbadonia is renaming their children before the ink has dried.

YuriB 03-08-2019 02:40 AM

[QUOTE=Niko777;179986][B]MEANWHILE in GREECE...
[/B]
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/HjcFI3t.jpg[/IMG]

[B]Photo taken [U]yesterday[/U] in Gorno Kleshtino, Lerinsko
[/B][/QUOTE]

Is it too late to add to the deal that Macedonia must also pay for the signs to change in Greece? We are poor you know!

Carlin 03-09-2019 03:15 PM

YuriB, it may not be too late.

Greece is quite busy running around catching "provocations" and "incidents".

Examples:
[url]http://en.protothema.gr/new-provocation-skopje-advertise-the-2000-year-old-macedonian-wines-as-part-of-their-heritage/[/url]
[url]http://en.protothema.gr/skopje-removes-macedonia-from-its-pavilion-at-the-berlin-international-tourism-fair-photos/[/url]


PS:

According to the official position of Greek Ministry of Foreign Affairs the Macedonian nation is still a "product" of Tito, the word Macedonia is a "Greek word", the ancient Macedonians are Greeks -- official link here:
[url]https://www.mfa.gr/en/the-question-of-the-name-of-the-republic-of-north/[/url]

Carlin 03-19-2019 09:06 PM

Another "provocation".

North Macedonian diplomat calls country Macedonia at EU meeting

North Macedonia’s Ambassador Rusi Popovska referred to Alexis Tsipras’ forthcoming trip to Skopje by saying, “Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras is going to visit Macedonia, and it is the first visit of a Greek prime minister to our country.”

ΤοΒΗΜΑ Team
19.03.2019

URL:
[url]https://www.tovima.gr/2019/03/19/international/north-macedonian-diplomat-calls-country-macedonia-at-eu-meeting/[/url]

Main opposition New Democracy is up in arms over repeated violations of the terms of the Prespa Agreement by Skopje.

“Before the ink of the signatures on the Prespa Agreement dried, the Ambassador of North Macedonia to the European Unioreferred to her country as “Macedonia” during an official preparatory meeting of the Joint Parliamentary Committee of the EU and North Macedonia,” said main opposition New Democracy spokesperson Maria Spyraki.

Spyraki said that Ambassador Rusi Popovska referred to Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’ forthcoming trip to Skopje by saying, “Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras is going to visit Macedonia, and it is the first visit of a Greek prime minister to our country.”

The reference constitutes a glaring violation of the Prespa Agreement.

Spyraki, a European Parliament deputy (MEP), said she will submit a question to the European Commission.

North Macedonian MPs are scheduled to meet next week with MEPs in Strasbourg in the framework of the joint parliamentary committee, of which Spyraki is a regular member.

Spyrakis’ question to the European Commission is as follows:

“In the framework of the preparatory meeting of the Joint Parliamentary Committee of the EU and North Macedonia in Brussels, North Macedonia’s Ambassador, Rusi Popovska, during an exchange of views with members of the committee, repeatedly used the name “Macedonia” in referring to the Republic of North Macedonia, and in particular in the presence of members of the Commission’s Directorate-General for Neighbourhood and Enlargement Negotiations.

“In one instance, she stated verbatim, “Prime Minister Tsipras is expected to visit Macedonia, which will be the first ever bilateral visit of a Greek Prime Minister to our country.

“Taking into account that upon implementation of the Prespa Agreement, the official name of the country for all uses is “Republic of North Macedonia” or “North Macedonia”, one asks the Commission:

Is the use of the term “Macedonia” by official representatives of North Macedonia considered a proper implementation of the Prespa Agreement, particularly in the presence of members of the Commission’s Directorate-General for Neighbourhood and Enlargement Negotiations?”

Carlin 03-19-2019 09:17 PM

[B]China denies Greek company request over use of ‘Macedonian’[/B]

URL:
[url]https://english.republika.mk/news/balkans/china-denies-greek-company-request-over-use-of-macedonian/[/url]

China denied on February 23 a request by a Greek company over the use of term ‘Macedonian’, elaborating that this requires an approval from the neighboring country, Maria Spyraki, spokesperson of Greek opposition party New Democracy, said at the briefing of political commentators on Monday.

Without disclosing the name of the business, I hereby inform you that we have a rejection from China of a Greek company’s request for the use of the term ”Macedonian” for its products, on the grounds that it cannot be used without the permission of the neighboring country. The rejection is dated February 23, 2019″, said Spyraki, MIA reported.

The New Democracy spokesperson mentioned the example in the context of Tsipras’ visit to Skopje, and commenting on trademarks said that “Greek businesses are already paying the cost of the damaging agreement”.

With the Prespa Agreement, the government has left the issue of trademarks, brands and brand names for our Macedonian products for three years. Greek businesses are already paying the cost of this damaging agreement, Spyraki said.

Carlin 03-28-2019 09:06 PM

[B]Zaev: I agreed to name change as Tsipras accepted Macedonian identity

In a debate with opposition VMRO-DPMNE leader Hristijan Mickoski, Zaev also noted that Tsipras had initially accepted the name Republic of Ilinden Macedonia[/B]

URL:
[url]https://www.tovima.gr/2019/03/28/international/zaev-i-agreed-to-name-change-as-tsipras-accepted-macedonian-identity/[/url]

North Macedonia’s Prime Minister, Zoran Zaev, has said that he agreed to change his country’s name and Constitution because PM Alexis Tsipras accepted the existence of a Macedonian identity.

In a debate with opposition VMRO-DPMNE leader Hristijan Mickoski, Zaev also noted that Tsipras had initially accepted the name Republic of Ilinden Macedonia.

Zaev said that the idea was scrapped due to an uproar among opposition parties in Greece.

Zaev said that the Macedonian language and Macedonian identity are “shining in the UN”.

“The writing of the Macedonian language and of Macedonian identity is shining in the UN where they were registered without asterisks or footnotes. The Macedonian language is the language of the Macedonians in Australia, America, Canada, Switzerland, and Germany, and no one disputes that,” Zaev declared.

“Macedonian is the language of Macedonians all over the world, in the diaspora and in the fatherland. It is the official language that is recognised everywhere. It is part of the identity of the Macedonian people as guaranteed in the Constitution,’ said the PM of North Macedonia.

Zaev fiercely defended the Prespa Agreement on the grounds that it paves the way to the admission of North Macedonia and the EU, while Mickoski argued that the accord harms his country’s national interests.

[B][COLOR="Blue"]Despite being pressured by the moderator and Zaev to say whether his party will honour the agreement if it comes to power, [U]the main opposition leader refused to answer[/U].[/COLOR][/B]



[B]Zaev manages to make a fool out of DPNE’s Mickoski with a simple question[/B]

URL:
[url]https://www.minareport.com/2019/03/28/zaev-manages-to-make-a-fool-out-of-dpnes-mickoski-with-a-simple-question/[/url]

During last night’s debate between US Embassy representative Zaev and US Embassy representative Mickoski, it took Zaev 36 seconds to make a fool out of fake patriot Mickoski who earlier used a Macedonian pin to score points with the viewers.

Admittedly, Zaev isn’t able to debate a rock, let alone a human being, however, during the high strangeness of this debate where both the illegal Government and the controlled opposition have the same boss, it was Zaev who put Mickoski into a corner with a simple question: [COLOR="Blue"][B]If you come to power, would you nullify the Prespa agreement? Mickoski had no response, his bosses at the Kale are watching.[/B][/COLOR]

This 36 seconds clip, Mickoski’s face, the silence… tells you all you need to know what the DPNE is and who they work for.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/zJKG0bI.jpg[/img]


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