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Giorikas 07-08-2009 09:19 AM

[QUOTE=Rogi;19322]Giorikas, if you do not mind me asking do you have Vlach origins?
Sorry for the off-topic.[/QUOTE]

Rogi, I don't have Vlach origins. Not that I know of anyway, but we're not from areas where Vlachs were, so it's not likely.

Risto the Great 07-08-2009 06:45 PM

So many sackings and resignations in the Government, I smell danger.

Rogi 07-08-2009 07:30 PM

What resignations? The ones where they are told the next day that they resigned?

It is a re-shuffle, purely party politics, to keep support high and the opposition at bay. For example, the Constitutional court took down two reforms in Education, the opposition planned to use that in it's upcoming 'all out' attack in September.

So the Education Minister was replaced by Gruevski, to counter the weight of the oppositions argument.

Risto the Great 07-08-2009 10:00 PM

Kind of good to hear. But the pessimist in me feels that members not subscribing to party policy are being ousted. If we knew what party policy was, it might be less concerning. This combined with Nimetz's renewed enthusiasm irks me.

Soldier of Macedon 07-09-2009 03:07 AM

Nimetz has been more enthusiastic in the past, come on fellas, how many times have we heard that a "name change is imminent", the "Macedonian government has already signed an agreement", the "Macedonian government will crack under the pressure of the US and EU any day now", bla, bla, bla. I have lost count to be honest, none of it means jack shit until the words are put into action, and few words have been put into action during the last 12 months let alone the last 17 years.

Gruevski knows that a bullet probably awaits the traitor that sells out the Macedonian identity in ROM, as he also knows that a betrayal in ROM will not ripple anywhere outside of ROM, and the Macedonians across the world, in neighbouring countries and the diaspora will continue to remain Macedonians and only Macedonians.

The 'negotiation' is pointless and a farce. The Macedonians do not wish to give up their identity, end of story. There are many battles in this war, but we will not lose the latter.

Risto the Great 07-09-2009 10:07 PM

'fyrom' deserved many bullets. Yet it was sold to Macedonians as temporary and necessary for the sake of progress. I hope we do not get sold out. It will be damaging to all Macedonians and will be the final nail in the coffin if allowed.

Soldier of Macedon 07-09-2009 10:29 PM

It is the final nail in the coffin only if we allow it to be. No doubt such a decision would severely harm us, but it will not be the end of it. Who know, many Macedonians are so placid these days that it would probably take something like this to get a reaction out of them. Who knows what that reaction will be, and how it will affect ROM, I don't believe the majority of Macedonians of ROM will just idly accept this. The diaspora certainly wont.

It is not over by a long shot, what will happen in Australia, 'northern macedonian language'? No chance, and we will make sure of that.

Pelister 07-09-2009 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;19332]Kind of good to hear. But the pessimist in me feels that members not subscribing to party policy are being ousted. If we knew what party policy was, it might be less concerning. This combined with Nimetz's renewed enthusiasm irks me.[/QUOTE]

I kinda agree with that.

I smell a betrayal of massive proportions.

Giorikas 07-10-2009 04:47 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;19292]Ummm, I asked the Professors. They were embarrassed if you really want to know. Quite apologetic too. And guess what, they HAVE been paid by the Greek State. And guess why they will not take their names off the list .... because they will CONTINUE to be paid by the Greek State.

But my dear little cockroach friend, I now know what makes them tick. Watch what happens when we release the pesticide on a large scale. I have already released a little and their legs are now pointing upwards.

I note you still have not been able to reply to the thread link I gave you. Don't you agree that it is a little shallow of you to keep your non-consequential banter going on here without assessing the validity of the author's research in the link provided? He actually lives in Macedonia .... and you .... don't. Although I reckon if I find a dark place in Macedonia, I might find you or your friends underneath a pile of rubbish or something.

Carry on big guy.[/QUOTE]

Noted that you did not expose the professors that fall in the category: 'Paid off'. Hot air. Why would you protect your enemies that you lured in a correspondance where they admitted to be paid by the Greek state.

Thank you very much for exposing your inability to back up your words.

Rogi 07-10-2009 12:39 PM

Giorikas, most professors with whom a number of Macedonians have had contact, who are alleged 'signatories' to Miller's list, have privately stated their opposition to Miller's letter and its intention.

They have also asked that any private correspondence remain private - and I suppose understandably so when their livelihood is at stake.

I expect whatever correspondence Risto has had with any professors, is of the same nature.

Nobody needs to prove anything to you, since you are an irrelevant non-factor for this case.


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